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re: Oh look Coach O is doing what he set out to do!

Posted on 12/17/18 at 6:26 am to
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/17/18 at 6:26 am to
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You could not counter one thing I said to counter your hysterical post to me...you provided no dates to the 40 times...in fairness, neither can I.




No, another poster provided the 40 times. You dismissed them out of hand because they didn't jive with your little narrative. You didn't provide anything to refute the poster you simply refused to acknowledge it.




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fairness, neither can I.



So now you admit that you're full of shite. Thank you.


Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 6:34 am to
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But, to hire Briles, not only would you have to overcome LSU Administraion and PC Academia, but Orgeron would have to give total control of the offense to Briles as OC. I don't think it's in Orgeron's character to do that or that he is capable of putting LSU ahead of his ego to that monumental extent



Letting your bias creep in. So much for that analytical mind you have there.
Posted by NoPandGglasses
Pineville - Central State Hopital
Member since Aug 2018
292 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 6:50 am to
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Letting your bias creep in. So much for that analytical mind you have there.


Butthurt much?

I guess you were asleep during the whole Canada debacle where Corch O admitted that he monkeyed with the Offense in the first half of the Troy game during his post game interview, LSU didn't score any points in that first half BTW...not much of a stretch to say that lost us the Troy game! Rumor was it almost came to blows with Canana & O at some point during the season.

And, the fact that when he was hired as HC at LSU, Orgeron attributed his poor record head coaching at Ole Miss to micro-managing his assistants. He earnestly vowed not to let that happen again, but it did...didn't it?

O has never been a DC, much less a coach on the offensive side of the ball.

Facts, just the facts please...
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 6:56 am
Posted by Pahnew
Member since Apr 2008
5374 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 6:57 am to
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He also didnt have to deal with a dynasty right down the road either like LSU has to deal with now.


Bingo. Until you start beating them on the field. There is not much you can say, other than stay close to home, possibly get on the field earlier than waiting on Bama's bench and be the reason we beat Bama. That only goes so far with kids, they see the rings, trophies and want that.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:18 am to
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Butthurt much?

I guess you were asleep during the whole Canada debacle where Corch O admitted that he monkeyed with the Offense in the first half of the Troy game during his post game interview, LSU didn't score any points in that first half BTW...not much of a stretch to say that lost us the Troy game! Rumor was it almost came to blows with Canana & O at some point during the season.

And, the fact that when he was hired as HC at LSU, Orgeron attributed his poor record head coaching at Ole Miss to micro-managing his assistants. He earnestly vowed not to let that happen again, but it did...didn't it?

O has never been a DC, much less a coach on the offensive side of the ball.

Facts, just the facts please




Butthurt much?

You don't type the ungodly amount of drivel that you've posted here tonight unless you're butthurt beyond belief.


Coach O rightfully told Canada to simplify the offense due to several players that hadn't picked it up yet. Canada proceeded to act like a fricking idiot. So GFY. You've spent an entire night airing your grievances only to reveal your true nature this morning. Just another O hater rearing your ugly head.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:44 am to
I think the wall Orgeron planned to put around the state of Louisiana is going up great. If LSU gets the 2 Amite kids Lee and Sopher I along with others should be happy. You can’t get them all especially the U high kids who seem to have not had any interest in staying in BR.
Posted by TheGhostOfBigLee
Member since Oct 2018
904 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:50 am to
I’m guessing you used to ride the short bus to school...
Posted by marinebioman
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Feb 2005
3396 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:54 am to
Lee isn't coming either, unfortunately.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14843 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 7:58 am to
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#1 I do trust Aranda, but I have not heard him, out of his own mouth, say that McCallum is better than Harris and he offered Harris first, not McCallum. And, due to recruiting rules, Aranda can't publicly say anything, you know this. I think McCallum is his fall-back plan because he can't get or doesn't think he can get Dean or Harris. I don't buy the line that is being sold to us that Aranda prefers McCallum. Don't put words in my mouth. Aranda is a Great Coach, but he is not as good as Saban is GREAT! Saban is the GOAT at DC and will always be Bama's real DC until he retires.

You have to be dizzy running in circles like this. No one said McCallum is better. But, we do have film of him actually playing ILB and the coaches got to evaluate him there. Harris did not. Do you have film or some assessment of Harris as an ILB which is where we would have recruited him? I won't wait because you don't and neither do our coaches.

Also, we have Starks who is actually rated higher as an ILB than Harris is as a WR/CB which is his true position.

I'll give you another example of our coaches going off of their evaluation. Devin Bush wanted an offer by all accounts and was a solid 4 star. We did not offer him, but did offer lower rated CBs instead.

Our coaches have certain players that fit their system. It doesn't mean Bush or Harris won't be great players. They just don't fit what they are looking for based on their defensive philosophy. Getting a higher rated player to win the recruiting trophy doesn't mean shite. If they lose out on a player they want then that's a different story.
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 8:19 am
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2636 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:40 am to
Stop trying to reason with this dude he's off the rails.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10412 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:43 am to
Of course
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2636 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 8:47 am to
Harris: wouldn't camp at LB; we offered Hback/Scat back and he said no. Aranda moved on to other targets. (And hit them)

Tongue: we had interest, he wanted to play offense. Georgia gave him that chance. Family has no hard feelings and speaks highly of LSU. We moved on to other targets at both WR and CB. (And hit them)

Constantine: by all accounts he wanted to move away from the LSU campus, which is fairly common for UHigh kids.

And since you mentioned:
Tim Williams: we made a play for him, then passed based on non-football issues. Kid didn't really wanna stay here, IMO. Definitely a miss.

The only dude from Uhigh we've missed on that last few years is Dylan Moses, and even he left and went to IMG.

I don't understand why NoP&G is literally off his rocker about this. Uhigh has been known as a football powerhouse except for the the last 3-4 years.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14843 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:08 am to
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Stop trying to reason with this dude he's off the rails.

I'll throw in another example where we may well have outsmarted Saban. Saban wanted to get Rosenthal, but wanted him as an OT. Dare wanted to play DT and we offered him a chance to compete. He signed with us and after spring we moved him to OT. If he turns out to be a great OT we absolutely got the best of Nick.

Now it's clear that Saban will win more than he loses. No one is arguing that, but considering he has connections throughout the state we are in a tougher spot competing against him for in state recruits. That's just a fact. We do seem to be doing better in N. LA. We just have to keep plugging away and win games and grab the best talent available in state and out.
Posted by Violent Tally
Member since Aug 2014
1084 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 9:33 am to
Anyone know why Harris would not camp at LSU?
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10412 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 10:11 am to
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Well, then, you know how Miami won all those NCs in Football too...and that was by keeping FL kids in state, especially South FL kids...and you know the core of those NC teams at Miami consisted of South FL kids...without them as the base, there would have been no NCs at Miami, and that is why they are struggling today, and you know the story of why Spurrier wanted to be he HC at LSU that I reference in this thread....right?


Yep....so tell me how a kid like Rohan Davey, who grew up in Miami watching those dominating UM teams in the early 90's decided to shun Butch Davis to go sign with LSU who would win 7 games in his first 2 seasons. Meanwhile Davis was in the process of putting together one of the most talented rosters in the history of college football with an All-American QB from California who could have gone anywhere. Florida and Miami have struggled at QB for the last decade. Tell me how they "missed" on Denard Robinson a South Florida kid ranked as an "athlete" who went on to become the Big 10 POY as a QB. Tell me how they both lost out on Teddy Bridgewater and Lamar Jackson to the vaunted Louisville program. How did they lose Geno Smith to West Virginia? How does UF miss on Aaron Murray in favor of a guy named Jordan Reed who is now a TE in the NFL? How did Nick Saban miss out on all these Florida QBs but sign a 3-star Florida QB named Philip Ely - the #71 (Rivals) recruit in Florida who didn't have an offer from UM, UF or FSU? And I'm just talking about QB's here. I could build a Pro Bowl type roster with Florida HS players that left the state to play college football in just the past decade. I could also build a full roster of Florida HS players ranked in the top 25 the past 10 years that went on to become total busts in college.
Posted by lsutbt
Member since Feb 2017
172 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:18 am to
The only thing you are going to accomplish on all this is a character limit on all these damn post
Posted by foamperson
Houston
Member since Jan 2015
206 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:26 am to
Tim Williams we QUIT RECRUITING because of ISSUES. It's well known and you sir are WRONG. I will trust Aranda over your whining like a child.
Posted by foamperson
Houston
Member since Jan 2015
206 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:40 am to
You said trend based on the fact WE STOPPED RECRUITING A THUG IN 2011. We got the others we wanted. WHERE THE HELL IS YOUR TREND. It seems it blew up in your ex-military face. You pointed to Williams and these 3 that we DIDN'T WANT. If you were military intelligence; my God we are lucky we still have a country. THERE IS NO TREND. WAKE TFU
This post was edited on 12/17/18 at 11:50 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99562 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:45 am to
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They have had a good run this past few years, but it has as much to do with the LHSAA spitting the public schools from the private schools as it does with U high having good teams.



Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12543 posts
Posted on 12/17/18 at 11:51 am to
Putting a wall up around Louisiana is a very popular concept here.
Getting all of La.'s best players is neither necessary nor sufficient to win championships. To compete for championships a team must recruit at least regionally, if not nationally. Like Georgia, Ala., OSU, Clemson., Michigan.
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