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Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:49 pm to RLDSC FAN
It's not as if this shocks me just irritated over the fact that the NCAA allowed Ohio St. to segment their new coaches on the recruiting front entirely and the old staff to game prep. I realize this isn't the only school that has been afforded this opportunity but it's especially upsetting when you consider the blatant violations at both Ohio St. and UNC but how they're actually benefiting from their situation.
And I love how silent ESPN/talking heads are regarding Urban and UF and the mess he's left there. Wouldn't help them put the image back together so they have the strong OSU viewing block.
And I love how silent ESPN/talking heads are regarding Urban and UF and the mess he's left there. Wouldn't help them put the image back together so they have the strong OSU viewing block.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:56 pm to rocket31
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JT landed top 5 classes on regular.
Since you don't think I know recruiting.
Here are the Tressel classes according to Rivals.
2002 5
2003 41
2004 9
2005 12
2006 12
2007 15
2008 4
2009 3
2010 25
2011 11
Those are the Tressel classes. Please show me top 5 on a regular basis.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:57 pm to BigEdLSU
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He better tweak his scheme though. It ain't worth shite without a freak qb.
...which we have...
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:59 pm to Tiger Authority
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It's not as if this shocks me just irritated over the fact that the NCAA allowed Ohio St. to segment their new coaches on the recruiting front entirely and the old staff to game prep
Have you looked to see how many coaches are on the Ohio State staff?
The recruiting has been done by Urban Meyer, Luke Fickell and Mike Vrabel. Two are current coaches. The "coaches" that Urban Meyer has hired that could be recruiting are fulfilling their obligations with their old team to coach that team through the bowl game. There are no new coaches out recruiting other than Urban Meyer.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 8:59 pm to SprintFun
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...which we have...
Which no doubt had an effect on the ultimate opportunist of a coach. How long until he has more "chest pains" and has to flee that job, run behind ESPN's shadow, only to show up elsewhere "ready to go" as a "insert school man"?
He recruited Tebow, he gets all the credit. But the dude is a scumbag.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 9:00 pm to VABuckeye
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The recruiting has been done by Urban Meyer, Luke Fickell and Mike Vrabel. Two are current coaches. The "coaches" that Urban Meyer has hired that could be recruiting are fulfilling their obligations with their old team to coach that team through the bowl game. There are no new coaches out recruiting other than Urban Meyer.
Seems pretty amazing even this is allowed all things considered.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 9:05 pm to Tiger Authority
You seem to be saying Ohio State shouldn't be allowed to recruit at all right now.
There is already a vacancy on the staff. The staff isn't over the allowable limit. The coaches that won't be there after the bowl game already know who they are and the new coaches will come in and recruit after their bowl games. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
There is already a vacancy on the staff. The staff isn't over the allowable limit. The coaches that won't be there after the bowl game already know who they are and the new coaches will come in and recruit after their bowl games. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
This post was edited on 12/18/11 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 12/18/11 at 9:11 pm to VABuckeye
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You seem to be saying Ohio State shouldn't be allowed to recruit at all right now.
Not at all. I'm saying allowing parts of the old and parts of the new to be at the school fulfilling entirely one department of their job is a joke and once again shows how impotent the NCAA is.
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There is already a vacancy on the staff. The staff isn't over the allowable limit. The coaches that won't be there after the bowl game already know who they are and the new coaches will come in and recruit after their bowl games. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Of course you believe that, it's your team. I have nothing against OSU, I actually like the team. I think your coach is a phony, but he was a good hire for your program all things considered. But considering your actions, this seems to me a way to actually advantage a school that doesn't deserve as much.
Posted on 12/18/11 at 9:25 pm to SprintFun
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...which we have...
who?
Posted on 12/18/11 at 9:59 pm to BigEdLSU
HOLY frick!!!! A PENNSYLVANIA RECRUIT DIDN'T PICK LSU!!!! COLOR MENCIMPLETELY SHOCKED!!!!
Posted on 12/18/11 at 10:12 pm to mikeytig
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...which we have...
who?
Braxton Miller
Posted on 12/18/11 at 11:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
braxton miller is not a solidified heisman winner yet..
he's good, but come on
he's good, but come on
Posted on 12/18/11 at 11:58 pm to VABuckeye
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Those are the Tressel classes. Please show me top 5 on a regular basis
are you trying to prove my point ?
3 out of his 10 classes were top 5; like i said, he was getting them regularly.
30% of the time you are a recruiting a TOP 5 CLASS; that is crazy good! the only other schools who can claim such the past ten years are USC, LSU, UF, FSU, and UT.
meyer will carry on where JT left off; locking down most of ohio, a random from PA and then snatching a few elite prospects from the south.
This post was edited on 12/19/11 at 12:18 am
Posted on 12/19/11 at 7:57 am to VABuckeye
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2002 5
2003 41
2004 9
2005 12
2006 12
2007 15
2008 4
2009 3
2010 25
2011 11
Scout now since they usually like OSU more and you used Rivals rankings to make your point
2002: 3
2003: 25
2004: 11
2005: 7
2006: 13
2007: 16 (only took 15 guys that class)
2008: 4
2009: 1
2010: 20
2011: 6
Ok, 5 classes were in the top 10. Urban Meyer will likely be in the top 10 every year depending on the numbers. That should hopefully make the 2nd string and 3rd string guys a little stronger giving the depth to win the national title. No one will argue that OSU's starters are as good as anyone; it's been a depth problem in the huge games I feel
Posted on 12/19/11 at 9:31 am to RollTigersRoll
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braxton miller is not a solidified heisman winner yet..
he's good, but come on
Definitely not a solidified heisman yet, but he is exactly the QB URban likes.
I think it is proven what URban can do with QBs that fit his system.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 12:11 am to taylork37
i also think that Tebow was a gigantic part of Meyers success.. he had #1 talent last year, but where was the #1 ranking??
Posted on 12/20/11 at 12:33 am to RollTigersRoll
If UM doesn't win within a couple years he'll say he has a health problem and bail.
This post was edited on 12/20/11 at 12:34 am
Posted on 12/20/11 at 12:39 am to rocket31
Urban Meyer is a better recruiter than Tressel. Meyer's recruiting classes at UF were better than Tressel's classes and he was competing against Miami and FSU for in-state and Nick Saban was reaching into the Florida pan handle.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:14 am to coldhotwings
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Meyer's recruiting classes at UF were better than Tressel's classes
they were essentially the same. meyer also recruited gobs of boneheads that never panned out and he oversigned a few classes which the B1G does not allow.
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he was competing against Miami and FSU for in-state and Nick Saban was reaching into the Florida pan handle
yeah, that stark florida high school football talent; barely enough to go around, its pretty amazing how he did it............
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