re: New 2018 class prediction from Jimmy

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Mr. Hangover

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I hear you. Wasn't being critical, just letting you know there was conflicting into out there.

Shea Dixon seems pretty sure he will end up at LSU, from what he's said recently.

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Cole Smith has been to three State home games included turing down seeing us in Oxford so he could be in Starkville instead.We are going to have to battle Miss State to keep him.A lot of State ties going on there and he is a State fan.

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Right. He's from Pontotoc, isn't he? Don't they have season tickets to State games? Did I read his dad play at State?

What's he doing being committed to us in the first place? Doesn't make much sense, but he's been committed for a while now, so who knows?

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Cole Smith has been to three State home games included turing down seeing us in Oxford so he could be in Starkville instead.We are going to have to battle Miss State to keep him.A lot of State ties going on there and he is a State fan.

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This is one I'm really worried about for a few reasons:

1. He's obviously a big state fan and visiting there constantly
2. These Mississippi kids seem to string us along and then slap us in the face in the end every single year
3. If we lose Smith, who is the obvious OC commit in this class, and Clapp left, we only have Cushenberry to play center next season, which would just continue to leave us in this never ending saga of issues on the OL

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re: New 2018 class prediction from JimmyPosted on 10/31/17 at 9:54 am to LSUButt

We have like 8-DL projected and 2-OL right now 
Alleva talked to O about the un balanaced classes it was reported upon hire. Doesn't seem like it took. 
Way to many DL in this class imo

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Aleva can a... leave.

Have you watched the games this season ? Notice we are very pourous and soft in the middle ?

They are counting OLB/edge rushers in the head count on DL, which is wrong to do, or misleading at best.

Who you really have right now, with one having at least 1 foot out the door:

1. DT - Cotton
2. DT - Rosenthal (who is really an OT)
3. DT - Nelson Jenkins (who has a hard time playing with an injured finger, and appears injury prone);
4. DT - Chasen Hines (who is really an OG)
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5.??? SDE/DT - Jashaun Griffin (1 of the 3 Romans,2 of whom flipped).

Dantrieze Scott MAY grow into a 5tech 3-4DE, maybe, but until then, he is an OLB/edge rusher in a 3-4 base defense, or a 4-3 DE. You cannot count him as a DT or in the front 3 in a 3-4 D until and unless he grows.

The same is true about Jarez Moore, who is already a JR, a JUCO, who has seen most of his growth, is an edge rusher OLB, and he is likely not going to qualify due to poor grades in JUCO from skipping classes (rumors have it). So you cannot count him as DL, regardless.

Jarell Cherry is an edge rusher OLB like Arden Key, he only counts as DL as part of a 4-3 Defense, not in our 3-4 Base Defense.

Thats it for the so called "DL" - 4 DTs, 2 of whom are really OL trying their hand at DL, just as likely to change to OL later on when need or the light comes on for them; one who is on their way out, and the best of whom is slightly undersized (Cotton) and the least capable of whom is injury prone and needs work.

If they are serious about Hines on the DL, they need some insurance. The best works as well as more, just-serviceable adds, so why not add Michael Thompson or someone else elite, if you can. No one in the list above is elite. But if not, at least add another for insurance thru numbers, like Dominic Livingston, and cull the dead wood, if any, quickly.

As alluded to, 2 of the DL are really OL, so one view is that adding Traore plus TE Glenn Beal, who is likely to grow into a LT size, is all you really need because if necessity dictates, you can move Hines and/or Rosenthal back to OL - Hines has said he will play where needed by the team, but prefers DL. Rosenthal insists on DL, but when the ignorance factor wears off and the $-light comes on (what OT/LTs make in the NFL compared to others, he will likely switch to OT). But in case he or they don't or do, you must hedge against both eventualities - thus you will be slightly light on OL and slightly heavy on DL. This is Jimmy's position on the OL.

Still, I would take 2 OTs plus Beal on the OL, if possible, and add at least 1 more DT if possible - upgrade if you can, and have to do, in order to make it work. I say add 1 more to be safe on OL, 1 more to be safe on the DL, and maybe upgrade 1 on the DL if posdible or necessary.


At least one if not 2 of these guys is critical to LSU's DL future:

Michael Thompson (LSU was once his leader, warm LSU)
Trevor Trout (long term warm on LSU)
Rick Sandidge (SoCar lean, was warm on LSU)
Keondre Coburn (flip)
Bobby Brown (flip, post season)
Antwuan Jackson Jr. (ExAUB JUCO OhSt commit, flip)
Or at least add one of these guys:
Tayland Humphrey (expressed interest in LSU after offer)
Christian Barmore (LSU in top 5)
Dominic Livingston (decommitted Ta&m to consider LSU)
Jeffery Johnson (has been warm on LSU in past)


The list of prospects for the OL adds is still very, very long, and the true leading prospects remain a mystery (until one commits out of nowhere again), but plainly these are included as top, top candidates:

JUCO OT - Badara Traore
OT/OG/OL - Dylan Wonnum
JUCO OG - Damien Lewis

But the list of other possibilities is still very long and would include all the Ta&m commits who may be ripe to flip if Kevin Sumlin gets fired, as well as the top FL OL prospects, Petit-Frere, Barnes, Gouraige, and even a few more, still includes Rafiti Ghirmai as a possible flip, and a few not yet offered, like: Jerome Carvin (from TN).

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LSUFanMizeWay

New 2018 class prediction from Jimmy

If we land Jason and Marshall, could they both start next year and are there other Wide Receivers that their game is comparable to.

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Yes, and yes.

Comparable players would be Jalen Hall, Kamryn Babb, and Jalen Preston (Ta&m commit that LSU basically slow played to focus on Chase and Marshall, but who had keen LSU interest, among others now committed elsewhere).

Must get= 5-star running back!!!! There has to be one somewhere!

Wouldn't Harold Joiner be a good enough addition at RB, if LSU can get a commitment from him?

What about this class of 30 with 2 QBs, Justin Rogers and Gerry Bohanon, that cuts already: Griffin, Moore, Washington ? Who would you cut here, if any, to get down to 27 ?

The 15 adds:

Patrick Surtain Jr. CB (6-2 / 181)0.9988 (+29.88)
Terrace Marshall WR (6-2.5 / 192)0.9947 (+29.29)
Anthony Cook CB (6-0 / 168)0.9924 (+28.53)
Justin Rogers DUAL (6-4 / 210)0.9824 (+26.72)
Kelvin Joseph CB (6-1.5 / 191)0.9730 (+24.73)
Kamryn Babb WR (6-1 / 189)0.9685 (+23.01)
Michael Thompson DT (6-3.5 / 291)0.9670 (+21.38)
Justin Watkins WR (5-11 / 172)0.9619 (+19.36)
Dylan Wonnum OT (6-5 / 279)0.9556 (+17.22)
Harold Joiner RB (6-3 / 218)0.9353 (+14.27)
Merlin Robertson OLB (6-3 / 241)0.9294 (+12.38)

Gerry Bohanon DUAL (6-3 / 218)0.9114 (+7.45)
Badara Traore OT (6-8 / 315)0.9041 (+5.09)
Glenn Beal TE (6-5 / 250)0.8842 (+1.98)
Michael Williams ATH (6-1 / 230)0.8516 (+0.12)

The full class of 30 scores 302.55 ....