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Need help getting to LSU coaches
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:52 am
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:52 am
I want to preface this with
I will keep this simple and to the point, but I'm willing to show any admin's or people in the know further validation if necessary.
Anyhow, I work for a recruiting service and we are the best in the business, we purposely don't share with teams who our clients are, which is part of our sales pitch that helps teams feel like they have a proprietary product and obviously for competitive reasons. Here is the thing, our startup probably will not make it past next may unless a miracle happens, because it turns out our sales strategy sucked and several relationships we counted on fail through. So as a last ditch effort, we decided to throw a hail mary, and offer a free trial with a few limitations to all D1 schools that we haven't had any sales relations with.
This trial account literally has access to the exact same data that our paying clients have for their trial period. So right now sitting in each inbox for each coach that we were able to obtain an email for, is a link with an account that they could use to find recruits across the country for 2019,2020, and 2021. We typically discover players 3-6 months before they show up on any recruiting websites (247, rivals, scout, espn). I'm not here to argue about the quality, but I can promise you one thing our evaluations are done by ex-NFL players/coaches and when I've compared our results to 247sports and results on the field of the past evaluations they are spot on, and impressive to say the least.
I will probably delete this post within a few hours, but what I am looking for is either someone that has an "in" that can tell a coach to just check his email and take a look, there is no harm or foul to open the website. We are a NCAA approved recruiting service and this isn't a violation from a compliance perspective, it's simply taking adv. of a trial account that we are using as a last ditch effort to gain traction in the market.
Also, willing to hear any ideas that anyone here may have on how to get their attention to just look at a damn email!!
I really don't care if LSU ever pays a dollar to the product, and I really could give a shite less about needing LSU to use the product in order to validate it or to feel cool, I really just bleed purple and gold, and I'll just put it out there, there biggest competitor is the largest consumer of the product even with their large shadow staff.
The real thing that bothers me is that I didn't build this product to help our current clients and even furthermore I definitely didn't build this damn thing to help increase the gap between LSU and u know who, so as a last ditch effort I see'ing if anyone here can come through, if not i'll delete this post and move on.
I will keep this simple and to the point, but I'm willing to show any admin's or people in the know further validation if necessary.
Anyhow, I work for a recruiting service and we are the best in the business, we purposely don't share with teams who our clients are, which is part of our sales pitch that helps teams feel like they have a proprietary product and obviously for competitive reasons. Here is the thing, our startup probably will not make it past next may unless a miracle happens, because it turns out our sales strategy sucked and several relationships we counted on fail through. So as a last ditch effort, we decided to throw a hail mary, and offer a free trial with a few limitations to all D1 schools that we haven't had any sales relations with.
This trial account literally has access to the exact same data that our paying clients have for their trial period. So right now sitting in each inbox for each coach that we were able to obtain an email for, is a link with an account that they could use to find recruits across the country for 2019,2020, and 2021. We typically discover players 3-6 months before they show up on any recruiting websites (247, rivals, scout, espn). I'm not here to argue about the quality, but I can promise you one thing our evaluations are done by ex-NFL players/coaches and when I've compared our results to 247sports and results on the field of the past evaluations they are spot on, and impressive to say the least.
I will probably delete this post within a few hours, but what I am looking for is either someone that has an "in" that can tell a coach to just check his email and take a look, there is no harm or foul to open the website. We are a NCAA approved recruiting service and this isn't a violation from a compliance perspective, it's simply taking adv. of a trial account that we are using as a last ditch effort to gain traction in the market.
Also, willing to hear any ideas that anyone here may have on how to get their attention to just look at a damn email!!
I really don't care if LSU ever pays a dollar to the product, and I really could give a shite less about needing LSU to use the product in order to validate it or to feel cool, I really just bleed purple and gold, and I'll just put it out there, there biggest competitor is the largest consumer of the product even with their large shadow staff.
The real thing that bothers me is that I didn't build this product to help our current clients and even furthermore I definitely didn't build this damn thing to help increase the gap between LSU and u know who, so as a last ditch effort I see'ing if anyone here can come through, if not i'll delete this post and move on.
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Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:58 am to JamesMaskin
quote:
The real thing that bothers me is that I didn't build this product to help our current clients and even furthermore I definitely didn't build this damn thing to help increase the gap between LSU and u know who
Someone help this man out, he’s being held captive by the Evil Empire and just simply wants to reconcile some of the damage by helping the good guys
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:02 am to JamesMaskin
quote:
I will probably delete this post within a few hours
Bad idea if you're serious about someone with inside access to the program reading this. At least leave it up a day or two.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:03 am to JamesMaskin
see Ponamsky,D.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:07 am to JamesMaskin
quote:
JamesMaskin
First of all sorry your business is failing, I hope you hit that miracle hail mary for a TD.
Send a private message to VolTiger he might actually be able to help you. If he can't send Chicken a private message, if you have a new business model maybe he might even want to invest who knows worth a shot worst he can say is No.
Good Luck!!!
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:08 am to JamesMaskin
Erreday I'm husslin.... ? ?
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:14 am to JamesMaskin
How’s Quad?
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:25 am to JamesMaskin
Not trying to be a dick, but how are y’all the ‘best in the business’ and still a ‘startup’ at the same time? 
Hope it works out for you
Hope it works out for you
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:34 am to JamesMaskin
This didn't seem simple and to the point. Ha
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:41 am to Mr. Hangover
I mean obviously best in the business is my opinion and not a provable fact, I just feel based on reviewing competitor products and based on how rigorous our evaluations are.
You are right though we are a startup and I'm happy I took the dive and learned a ton of lessons along the way, primarily being that it's extremely difficult to get in the room with the decision makers (coaches) they have tons of gate keepers, and those gate keepers weren't the target market it was built for the coaches, so it's hard to get them to get the head coach in the room..
We have had a ton of position coaches and director of player personnel love the product, and we leave our meetings thinking they are in, but the issue is all these guys walk on egg shells around the head coach, it's so hard to get them to present anything to the coach because they feel their integrity is limited and the head coach could easily turn around and say you don't need that shite, we've been recruiting for the last 50 years without any technology tools, the old fashion way, get off your arse and get me some players to evaluate.
You are right though we are a startup and I'm happy I took the dive and learned a ton of lessons along the way, primarily being that it's extremely difficult to get in the room with the decision makers (coaches) they have tons of gate keepers, and those gate keepers weren't the target market it was built for the coaches, so it's hard to get them to get the head coach in the room..
We have had a ton of position coaches and director of player personnel love the product, and we leave our meetings thinking they are in, but the issue is all these guys walk on egg shells around the head coach, it's so hard to get them to present anything to the coach because they feel their integrity is limited and the head coach could easily turn around and say you don't need that shite, we've been recruiting for the last 50 years without any technology tools, the old fashion way, get off your arse and get me some players to evaluate.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:46 am to JamesMaskin
You don’t need connections.
Walk into Athletic office and leave a letter. Or email any address you can find online.
If they’re interested they will call you.
Walk into Athletic office and leave a letter. Or email any address you can find online.
If they’re interested they will call you.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:49 am to JamesMaskin
I seriously debated posting anything on here, because I don't want to be like those guys that say "taking hot girl to the game" without a picture, this seriously is my hail mary thinking what is there to lose. I know insiders read this board as we have seen it in the past, so I'm hoping their is a prayer.
Here is an image of the most recent players discovered as Elite to add validity to my post.
elite rb's
Here is an image of the most recent players discovered as Elite to add validity to my post.
elite rb's
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:53 am to AtlantaLSUfan
LOL AtlantaLSUFan, if you only knew how many people walk in trying to market these coaches products, and how much shite doesn't get the time of day. The only sales we were able to close were based on coaching connections from our evaluation staff. The thing is even if I had Ed O on a phone call right now, telling him exactly who is doing the evaluating, their ego's and openness to hearing about tools to help them is very small. He would hang up the phone before I could even tell him that he can see all the data for free himself.
I think people like Aranda would evaluate the product, because it takes someone willing to overcome their lack of interest in technology to do it. Most coaches don't want to use a phone/ipad/PC they just want to coach.
I think people like Aranda would evaluate the product, because it takes someone willing to overcome their lack of interest in technology to do it. Most coaches don't want to use a phone/ipad/PC they just want to coach.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:58 am to JamesMaskin
quote:
I will keep this simple and to the point
Does not equal:
quote:
I want to preface this with I will keep this simple and to the point, but I'm willing to show any admin's or people in the know further validation if necessary. Anyhow, I work for a recruiting service and we are the best in the business, we purposely don't share with teams who our clients are, which is part of our sales pitch that helps teams feel like they have a proprietary product and obviously for competitive reasons. Here is the thing, our startup probably will not make it past next may unless a miracle happens, because it turns out our sales strategy sucked and several relationships we counted on fail through. So as a last ditch effort, we decided to throw a hail mary, and offer a free trial with a few limitations to all D1 schools that we haven't had any sales relations with. This trial account literally has access to the exact same data that our paying clients have for their trial period. So right now sitting in each inbox for each coach that we were able to obtain an email for, is a link with an account that they could use to find recruits across the country for 2019,2020, and 2021. We typically discover players 3-6 months before they show up on any recruiting websites (247, rivals, scout, espn). I'm not here to argue about the quality, but I can promise you one thing our evaluations are done by ex-NFL players/coaches and when I've compared our results to 247sports and results on the field of the past evaluations they are spot on, and impressive to say the least. I will probably delete this post within a few hours, but what I am looking for is either someone that has an "in" that can tell a coach to just check his email and take a look, there is no harm or foul to open the website. We are a NCAA approved recruiting service and this isn't a violation from a compliance perspective, it's simply taking adv. of a trial account that we are using as a last ditch effort to gain traction in the market. Also, willing to hear any ideas that anyone here may have on how to get their attention to just look at a damn email!! I really don't care if LSU ever pays a dollar to the product, and I really could give a shite less about needing LSU to use the product in order to validate it or to feel cool, I really just bleed purple and gold, and I'll just put it out there, there biggest competitor is the largest consumer of the product even with their large shadow staff. The real thing that bothers me is that I didn't build this product to help our current clients and even furthermore I definitely didn't build this damn thing to help increase the gap between LSU and u know who, so as a last ditch effort I see'ing if anyone here can come through, if not i'll delete this post and move on.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:02 pm to JamesMaskin
I think one hurdle you have to worry about right NOW, is time. Coaches don’t have a lot of extra time during this point in the year to worry about evaluating a new product
I wish I could help you man
I wish I could help you man
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:09 pm to JamesMaskin
This is another screenshot showing how we discovered Daxton Hill months before any other sites listed him or had any activity on him.
Daxton Hill eval
Daxton Hill eval
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:11 pm to Mr. Hangover
Mr. Hangover I don't want to rescue the startup, more than I just want LSU to take advantage of the data that we have which is through 2021 and some 2022, that is free to them sitting in an email. Especially when their strongest competition has the highest site traffic ratings.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:14 pm to JamesMaskin
quote:
Here is an image of the most recent players discovered as Elite to add validity to my post.
elite rb's
Well y'all definitely have a type. How many RBs got drafted in the 1st round over the last few years that were less than 190lbs at that point in their highschool career?
BTW, I do startup consulting if you are interested. tdligerfan@gmail.com
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:28 pm to JamesMaskin
quote:
This is another screenshot showing how we discovered Daxton Hill months before any other sites listed him or had any activity on him.
Sorry but It’s a low res unreadable jpg on imgur. There is zero info about him or your site. That link means nothing. This is not how I imagine the “best in the business”. how is that an evaluation?
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:32 pm to JamesMaskin
quote:
this seriously is my hail mar
What? THIS is your Hail Mary? How does the imgur post add validity to your post?
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