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re: Maurice Hampton
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:22 pm to Indiana Tiger
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:22 pm to Indiana Tiger
quote:
My solution gives him everything he wants.
Unless he wants what was already agreed upon, to sign a football LOI.
quote:Oh go frick yourself.
Everyone will know you're full of shite.
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:32 pm to ProjectP2294
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Unless he wants what was already agreed upon, to sign a football LOI.
How do you know exactly what was agreed upon?
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:35 pm to whitefoot
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How do you know exactly what was agreed upon?
I'm going off of the reports from Geaux247. You have a source to refute it, or are you just going to cite your feelings?
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:47 pm to ProjectP2294
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You have a source to refute it, or are you just going to cite your feelings?
Dang. You're getting awfully emotional about this discussion. I was honestly asking if you knew exactly what the discussions with Hampton had been, because your posts seem to indicate that you do.
Do you know why he didn't sign in December? How are his grades/test scores? There were some whispers that he might have an issue qualifying.
You keep talking about LSU keeping up their end of the bargain, but what about Hampton keeping up his? I haven't heard anything from him saying he's going to definitely come to LSU. In fact, someone posted a quote from him the other day where he said he likes baseball more than football. How committed should we be to a kid who doesn't appear to be 100% committed to us?
Also, you keep saying that we need to sign him so he doesn't lose his negotiating leverage. Why should LSU care about his negotiating leverage and how exactly would he have less leverage if he does not sign, but has still a spot available this summer?
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:57 pm to whitefoot
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Dang. You're getting awfully emotional about this discussion.
Yesterday when I asked you what you were basing something on, you cited your feelings. I was wondering if it was going to be the same today.
quote:My understanding was that he wanted to take the visits he'd not been able to take previously because baseball took up so much of his time. I don't know the exact reason.
o you know why he didn't sign in December?
quote:I've not read that anywhere before now.
How are his grades/test scores? There were some whispers that he might have an issue qualifying.
quote:
You keep talking about LSU keeping up their end of the bargain, but what about Hampton keeping up his? I haven't heard anything from him saying he's going to definitely come to LSU. In fact, someone posted a quote from him the other day where he said he likes baseball more than football. How committed should we be to a kid who doesn't appear to be 100% committed to us?
He has stated he will sign with LSU in February. What more could he possibly say without knowing how the draft has played out?
quote:
Also, you keep saying that we need to sign him so he doesn't lose his negotiating leverage. Why should LSU care about his negotiating leverage and how exactly would he have less leverage if he does not sign, but has still a spot available this summer?
No, I said Hampton needs to sign a football LOI to keep his leverage. LSU needs to sign him to keep him. Someone will let him sign a football LOI if we don't.
Him being on a campus over the summer working out with a football team holds a little more weight than just having the option to show up somewhere in the fall.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:59 pm to ProjectP2294
Pretty simple. We signed 24 and the 25th spot is for you if you don’t go pro. If that’s not reasonable to him he can go up the friggin road anyway
Posted on 1/17/19 at 3:30 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:There is no different LOI for the various sports. There is only one LOI; it DOES have check boxes for the sport.
No, I said Hampton needs to sign a football LOI to keep his leverage.
There is a spot for football (early signing period), football (regular signing period), and for baseball it would fall under "Other Sports". It doesn't even list baseball specifically.
And you keep mentioning the leverage of the LOI... the LOI states no value, none... whatsoever. There is nothing in there that says "this LOI is this much aid". None.
No matter the sport, any of them, the LOI says the exact same thing. All those checkboxes at the top are for is to make sure someone isn't submitting a LOI outside of the accepted dates.
By the way, he could sign a LOI today if he checked "other sports".
A LOI is not the same as a scholarship offer. These are two different things.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 3:45 pm to TruthTellerLSU
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I think we forget to realize that even at 248th in the country that still is a premier athlete in college football. I dont think Hampton is as good of a football player as he is a baseball player but being 248 out of hundreds of thousands of HS football players isnt bad.
Rational thought on the Rant??
Posted on 1/17/19 at 3:49 pm to 1723lale
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Rational thought on the Rant??
Snot the rant, Brotato Chip.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 4:44 pm to GetmorewithLes
THANK YOU. All this arguing over something that CAN NOT HAPPEN if he is going to play football.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 4:48 pm to I20goon
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There is no different LOI for the various sports. There is only one LOI; it DOES have check boxes for the sport.
There is a spot for football (early signing period), football (regular signing period), and for baseball it would fall under "Other Sports". It doesn't even list baseball specifically.
And you keep mentioning the leverage of the LOI... the LOI states no value, none... whatsoever. There is nothing in there that says "this LOI is this much aid". None.
No matter the sport, any of them, the LOI says the exact same thing. All those checkboxes at the top are for is to make sure someone isn't submitting a LOI outside of the accepted dates.
By the way, he could sign a LOI today if he checked "other sports".
A LOI is not the same as a scholarship offer. These are two different things.
Yes you are correct but it has been proven time and time again that players with signed football LOIs demand more money from MLB teams than players who check that “other sports” box.
He is going to check that football box for SOMEONE on NSD. That’s a fact. He would be stupid to do otherwise.
Do you want him to check that box for LSU? Or do you want him to check it for Ole Miss or Auburn?
Personally I’d like to take a chance on the best two sport athlete this school has seen since Chad Jones
Posted on 1/17/19 at 4:53 pm to OppositeMan
O yeah, my bad bromister .. Recruiting board ratonal thought!!
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 1/17/19 at 5:53 pm to CottonWasKing
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Yes you are correct but it has been proven time and time again that players with signed football LOIs demand more money from MLB teams than players who check that “other sports” box.
It's not the football LOI per se, but the legitimate threat that football presents. In Hampton's case, everyone knows, and I mean everyone, realizes that if he goes the college route, he's playing football. Any LOI represents the same thing. Yes they may try to bullshite their way around this in the hope that whoever is representing him is too stupid to realize this, and if they are too stupid, the kid is in big trouble and not very smart himself.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 6:26 pm to Indiana Tiger
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It's not the football LOI per se, but the legitimate threat that football presents
Right. And that threat is legit if he is actively making plans to play football, which is what an LOI does for him. You are pretending that he has the same leverage without the LOI, but it's just not true. You should just stop. It's embarrassing for you.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 6:53 pm to Indiana Tiger
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Yes they may try to bullshite their way around
Not may. Will.
MLB organizations are legendary in their shadiness and fact of the matter is they don’t NEED Hampton but they do want him. But only for the lowest price. Him being on LSUs campus practicing football, or any college campus for that matter, makes that lowest price much higher.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:38 pm to ProjectP2294
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So let's take away the piece of leverage that drives his price up and makes it more likely he gets to campus, pretty much ensuring that he won't.
Well, you’re wrong about this. His threat, and ability, to play football does not change one bit by LSU employing that strategy. We’re still holding a spot for him. He can still play both sports in college. The leverage is unchanged.
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