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Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:43 pm
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:43 pm
This is the transfer guard that Wade apparently wants the most.

It's not hard to see why.

6-1, 200-pound senior from Toledo. Mid-American Conference Player of the Year.

Stats
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
7308 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:58 pm to
Deep three's
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
Member since Feb 2009
5065 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:25 pm to
That’s a quick arse release on the jumper. Looks like a good player.
Posted by atlee
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
2042 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:28 pm to
He released a final four choices and LSU wasn't on it.
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
Member since Feb 2009
5065 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:54 pm to
Well damn. Back to the drawing board. Hopefully, we get some good news soon.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:16 pm to
I was told it isn't over.

We'll see.

Wade is also in the final four for Myreon Jones, who would be a perfectly good get as well.

Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27066 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:57 pm to
Looks bigger than 6-1

Shot 16% from the field in his last game
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 11:59 pm
Posted by luciouslou
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2017
6696 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:13 am to
But can he play d?
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:34 am to
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But can he play d?



His stats show that he gets a good number of steals, but watching the highlights of their games against Michigan, Ohio U in the MAC tournament and Richmond in the NIT, I'd have to say the answer is...not really.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28250 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:24 am to
quote:

But can he play d?


While some are obviously better than others, ALL players can defend if it is a point of emphasis for the coaching staff. Loyola-Chi., Tennessee, Wisconsin, Rutgers, St. Bonaventure, Ole Miss were ALL top 25 defensive teams. Does anyone think those teams had markedly better athletes than LSU?

It is one thing to be a better offensive team than defensive team. It's quite another to be absolutely horrible defensively. Which LSU has been under Wade. You have to get to #70 in the KenPom rankings before you find a team (Davidson) who is worse defensively than LSU was this past season. And that was an IMPROVEMENT from last season!

This isn't a "fire Wade" post, but recognition that his LSU teams (while very good) are probably leaving a lot of meat on the bone simply because they don't defend. LSU scored the 3rd highest point total all season against a really good defensive team in Michigan...and still lost by 8 because they allowed Michigan to shoot 54% from the field and 40% from three. The best overall FG% Michigan had shot in the year 2021!

Point being, it doesn't matter who they sign. If there isn't a TRUE emphasis on defense (as opposed to just empty talk) it won't matter.
Posted by bugafor6
Member since Feb 2016
4200 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:33 am to
What’s crazy is when Wade got here defense was a big emphasis. I remember him talking about how he was reteaching the team everything about defense, even to the extent of their feet angle when they are guarding someone. They also used to spend time during practice diving at loose balls so he can teach them the proper way to do that. Now we don’t play defense and we just watch the other team dive for the ball.

I’m not sure if he just lost interest in that or what, but it doesn’t make sense for use to be so bad. You aren’t just a shot blocker away from being a good defensive team when your numbers look like that.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:16 am to
I think a lot of it is the past three years the team has been predicated on having star-quality players like Waters, Reid, Smart, Emmitt Williams, Watford and Thomas.

And none of those guys were very good defensive players. They were scorers, and they had scorer mentalities.

The past two recruiting classes he's emphasized long, quick athletes who aren't scorers so much as they're - at least theoretically - defensive players.

We'll see if that translates into a different-looking team next year. My guess is that it will.

It needs to, because unless some of these kids completely break out the way Ronald Dupree and Tim Quarterman did in their 2nd years in the program, points aren't going to come in bunches like they have the past few years.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278172 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:23 am to
why is wade in love with low percentage shooters
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27066 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:24 am to
I think it matters what type of players you have.

Just like you said these past couple years the players have been better offensively
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28250 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:51 am to
quote:

I think a lot of it is the past three years the team has been predicated on having star-quality players like Waters, Reid, Smart, Emmitt Williams, Watford and Thomas.

And none of those guys were very good defensive players. They were scorers, and they had scorer mentalities.


FWIW, I think Waters was named the DPOY in his 2nd year. That said, almost all big recruits come in the with "scorer's mentalities" because they usually were one of the best players on their HS teams. It is also one thing to be a better offensive player than defensive. But it is quite another to be not just average, but downright bad defensively as a team. When it occurs over the course of 4 years, with multiple different rosters, it's not just a collection of bad defensive players. It is a system/philosophy deficiency. We're not talking about a team that was just outside the top 40 in defense. We are talking about a team that was outside the top 100 defensively. I don't care how much of a "scorer's mentality" players have. If defense is an emphasis of the program even those guys should be better than 123!! Which, admittedly, was better than the 170+ rating they had the year before. I don't think anyone, myself included, is thinking LSU should be a top 10 defensive team. But I don't think it is too much ask that they be significantly better than 123!

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The past two recruiting classes he's emphasized long, quick athletes who aren't scorers so much as they're - at least theoretically - defensive players.

We'll see if that translates into a different-looking team next year. My guess is that it will.

It needs to, because unless some of these kids completely break out the way Ronald Dupree and Tim Quarterman did in their 2nd years in the program, points aren't going to come in bunches like they have the past few years.


One would think and hope that was the case, but regardless of players LSU has done just some awful fundamental things on defense. They were awful in transition last season because they either (a) didn't get back with any effort and/or (b) where confused as to who to pick up in transition. Watford would spend 75% of the defensive possession pointing out guys for OTHER people to guard...without actually guarding anyone himself. Thomas just didn't defend and Wade didn't seem to care. The 1-3-1 "press" was a disaster because it almost always led to a wide open shot with minimal effort. And many times they would have the post seemingly guarded pretty well, only to have someone unnecessarily coming off the ball to double-team to try to force a steal. In the process they would leave a guy wide open when they had the play defensed well.

I think it all comes down to the fact that Wade overvalues deflections and steals, and how those occur. Teams like Texas Tech and (in the NCAAT) UCLA get those deflections. But it is more of a byproduct of their overall defense. With LSU it seems like they are selling out for deflections at the expense of everything else. Whatever the reason, the philosophy CLEARLY isn't working.
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
Nola
Member since Jul 2014
1979 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 11:10 am to
Highlights look great. He’s got a lot in his offensive toolbox. Floater game looks solid. Great lay-up package. Changes speeds well with hesitations. Can create his own shot. Confident pulling up off the dribble and firing from long range.
Posted by Bassman68
Homer La.
Member since Oct 2019
461 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:35 pm to
20% over smart should seal it
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10277 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

That’s a quick arse release on the jumper. Looks like a good player.


Looks like Marcus Thornton from long range and has some of Javonte's penetrate/ floater game.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:15 pm to
Let's face it, though, Waters' prowess on defense came from him doing a great job playing the passing lanes and grabbing loose balls.

As an on-ball defender, he really wasn't all that great.

As for the rest of those star-quality guys, none of them were obtainers of loose balls with much regularity.

It's going to be interesting to see what a team which has to rely on hustle and attitude rather than the ability to score on their man with alacrity, will do for Wade. I think it'll look a lot like his VCU teams which were pretty damn good.
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
Nola
Member since Jul 2014
1979 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:56 am to
Eh waters was a pretty good on ball defender. I mean he wasn’t gonna bang with anyone down low but on the perimeter he was a pest.
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