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Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:14 am to rds dc
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BJ Mack
This may just be Mack doing his due diligence, but with the other teams in his top list, I don't feel as if LSU has a serious chance with him
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Onyenso
As of yesterday there was a lot of smoke around him returning to Kentucky. A UK booster may have dropped some NIL money to convince him to stay
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:15 am to Tigerfan14
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He’s averaged less than 4ppg his whole career. It would be a pretty big stretch to call him an impact player, especially as a perimeter defender. If he was scoring 4ppg but blocking 3 shots and grabbing 10 rebounds, I’d agree.
I’m a big analytics believer but they don’t always tell the whole story. This is a perfect example with our highest rated offensive player only averaging 2.6 ppg before his injury. It clearly isn’t taking volume in to account.
Mwani is the type of player whose impact is shown through the eye test. Look back to our game against Arkansas this year. Even though he only played a few minutes, those few minutes he played the entire defense was locked in and allowed us to hold onto our lead and eventually win the game.
On offense, he opens up the floor for other scorers because one defender has to stay committed to him in the corner at all times. He only scores under 4ppg because of volume. he is a knockdown shooter and a lob threat when given the opportunity.
I hope that he can make a full recovery because I think he is one of those players that is key to having a successful team. Not a stats or glamor guy, but a gritty defensive player and hard worker.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:18 am to Aforem7
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Agreed. Last years team had so many issues (scoring, rebounding, turnovers, defending) that it would be difficult to solve every single issue in the portal. Right now with the way its looking the team may be a poor rebounding team again, but at this point lets just focus on getting in guys that can get the ball in the basket more to at least try to get us competitive again
Obviously, hindsight is 20-20 but last season's team on paper, looked better heading into the season than the roster MM is currently putting together. Once again, we all know what happened last season, but during the offseason/going into last season, the team was considered a bubble team. I don't think this new roster will be considered a bubble team and will likely be picked near the bottom of the West in the preseason. MM has his work cut out.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:24 am to rds dc
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Obviously, hindsight is 20-20 but last season's team on paper, looked better heading into the season than the roster MM is currently putting together.
I kind of disagree with this. As far as the transfer portal goes, while last transfer portal class did rank #11, the majority of that was based on quantity not quality. Only one guy that was brought in was rated above a 3 star transfer prospect and that was KJ which I would say worked out pretty well. Cook, Jordan Wright, Baker, and Abram are all 4* transfers. HS recruiting class is a different story.
Eta- I think the biggest reason next year still seems pretty gloom is because the product this past year was so bad that it seemed beyond saving. But on paper, I would say this transfer class is better than last
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 9:27 am
Posted on 4/11/23 at 9:29 am to rds dc
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but last season's team on paper, looked better heading into the season than the roster MM is currently putting together
On paper maybe but I think our team coming into this season is better if not the same. Half the players we brought in were a major disappointment. Hill and Coleman were flat out NOT SEC material. Same could be said for Corneilous Williams. Under the assumption Abram and Baker commit:
Cook and Abram > JHill and JWill
Baker (and possibly BJ Mack) > Coleman and C Williams
The only losses are KJ, Ace, and Phillips. But, Baker can provide a similar role as KJ. He's not as good but he's similar in terms of offense so it mitigates the loss. Ace was downright awful this year, and I genuinely think Abram can grow into a just as good if not better player. He's younger and has more upside. Phillips is the true big loss as he has insane potential and this team desperately lacks a physical big man that can rebound and defend. Fountain is not that guy, he is not a C. Foolish that MM tried forcing him to be.
I'm also high on Mike Williams. I don't expect much from him this season due to the depth we'll have at the guard position but I expect him to grow into a quality two-way player.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:01 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Fair enough, but both of y'all are projecting what you think this incoming group will do and fixating on what last year's team did. Based on prior season data, KJ Williams was a Top 100 player coming out, and Mack and Baker aren't even Top 1000. So that is a huge drop-off based on prior performance. Hill was a Top 250 player, and Cook & Wright are in the 400-600 range. So not as drastic, but still a drop-off. This is based on the data from the season prior to them coming to LSU.
Wright has played in the SEC, so his performance should translate, but Cook has to prove he can perform against the big physical guards that dominate the SEC.
I think this new group passes the "eye test" and will be better than last season, but it's all make believe until they actually produce something next season.
Wright has played in the SEC, so his performance should translate, but Cook has to prove he can perform against the big physical guards that dominate the SEC.
I think this new group passes the "eye test" and will be better than last season, but it's all make believe until they actually produce something next season.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:10 am to rds dc
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Fair enough, but both of y'all are projecting what you think this incoming group will do and fixating on what last year's team did. Based on prior season data, KJ Williams was a Top 100 player coming out, and Mack and Baker aren't even Top 1000. So that is a huge drop-off based on prior performance. Hill was a Top 250 player, and Cook & Wright are in the 400-600 range. So not as drastic, but still a drop-off. This is based on the data from the season prior to them coming to LSU.
Are you getting these rankings from their HS recruiting rankings? Bc for most of these guys that was 3-4 years ago. Cook Wright and Abram are all three top 50 players in the 247 transfer portal rankings and Baker and Mack are top 10 in their positions as well
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 10:13 am
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:23 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Y’all look at team building entirely too shallow. Just comparing “player A is better than player B” isn’t how this works… increasing the overall talent will make the team better, but having a bunch of random pieces doesn’t make you a good team. If we are just trying to win more than 2 SEC games, we will probably accomplish that. If you are talking about building an actually competitive team, you have to have players whose skill sets complement each other. That’s the issue with the projected roster right now. Even if we land who we project to land, there are still massive holes in specific skill sets we are missing. That could lead to teams killing us, regardless of how good the roster looks on paper.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:35 am to Tigerfan14
I think thats the biggest risk of the transfer portal. None of these guys have ever been on the floor together and the reality is no one has any idea how they will mesh together. Even if they have complimentary playing styles, you may have personalities that clash in the lockroom and lead to other issues. Its McMahon's job to get them to play complimentary basketball and to mesh as a team. Until then, all we really have to go off of as fans is on-paper evaluations and their performances at previous schools
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:47 am to Aforem7
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Are you getting these rankings from their HS recruiting rankings? Bc for most of these guys that was 3-4 years ago. Cook Wright and Abram are all three top 50 players in the 247 transfer portal rankings and Baker and Mack are top 10 in their positions as well
Recruiting rankings are absolutely worthless. All the above are EM LINK based on their actual college performance. So Baker and Mack are outside the Top 1000 based on last seasons data putting them on par with with LSUs roster this past season.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 10:53 am to rds dc
I think we are linked to the following transfers:
Will Baker C Nevada
Amaree Abram CG Ole Miss
BJ Mack F/C Wofford
Carlos Stewart SG Santa Clara
Moussa Cissee C Oklahoma State
Does anyone know when we should expect news? When we get our next transfer. Its been quiet for a while.
Will Baker C Nevada
Amaree Abram CG Ole Miss
BJ Mack F/C Wofford
Carlos Stewart SG Santa Clara
Moussa Cissee C Oklahoma State
Does anyone know when we should expect news? When we get our next transfer. Its been quiet for a while.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:07 am to rds dc
Fair enough. But even using that metric Cook and Wright both rank significantly higher than all of LSU's guards outside of Mwani last year
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:09 am to LSUFan2700
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Will Baker C Nevada
Amaree Abram CG Ole Miss
BJ Mack F/C Wofford
Carlos Stewart SG Santa Clara
Moussa Cissee C Oklahoma State
Haven't seen anything link Cisse to LSU. Pretty sure he will need a waiver like Cook.
Baker & Mack both looked like locks but visited, didn't commit, and are now taking more visits.
Not much out there on Stewart & Abram but posters here with good info think they are LSU.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:09 am to LSUFan2700
Brandon Murray to ole miss 
Pretty nice list for Phillips
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LSU basketball transfer Shawn Phillips is becoming a popular name in the portal. Georgia, Clemson, Michigan and Nebraska are among 16 teams that have reached out to him since he decided to take his talents elsewhere, according to 247Sports' Dushawn London. The others are Illinois, St. John's, Kansas State, Texas A&M, Eastern Michigan, Arizona State, Georgia Tech, Illinois State, St. Bonaventure, Memphis, UMass and Nevada.
Pretty nice list for Phillips
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:10 am to LSUFan2700
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Moussa Cissee C Oklahoma State
I know we lost out to him to Memphis a few years back, but has there actually been any news that we are connected to him this transfer cycle? May have missed it
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:12 am to S
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St. John's
Phillip's going get him some Pitino prostitutes??
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:14 am to Aforem7
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Fair enough. But even using that metric Cook and Wright both rank significantly higher than all of LSU's guards outside of Mwani last year
Correct but I was focusing solely on data pre-LSU. Wright's skills should transfer based on prior SEC experience. Cook will probably take a hit, IIRC the avg drop was like 200 for players coming from lesser schools into the SEC, but should still be better than what LSU had last year.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:17 am to S
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Brandon Murray to ole miss
Yep. Beard is putting together a solid squad. However, Murray will need a waiver.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 11:31 am to Tigerfan14
quote:With Cook, and potentially with Stewart, we do address a couple of skills in a fast point to break a press and additional scoring from our guards, especially point. Wright will obviously give us better rebounding from the 2 or 3.
Even if we land who we project to land, there are still massive holes in specific skill sets we are missing.
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