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re: LSU Baseball 2024 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread OLD THREAD
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:12 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:12 pm to ProjectP2294
I also don’t think he’s in the Torkelson conversation
Torkelson hit .355 as a Jr and .340 as a SR while hitting 20+ home runs as a freshmen and sophemore and 6 before the season ended in 2020.
He also had a great OB% and didn’t strike out a lot and he basically did that all 3 years of college. I do think Jones could
improvise his draft stock if he came back another year and hit .320-340. which i think he could do. the question would be how much?
Torkelson hit .355 as a Jr and .340 as a SR while hitting 20+ home runs as a freshmen and sophemore and 6 before the season ended in 2020.
He also had a great OB% and didn’t strike out a lot and he basically did that all 3 years of college. I do think Jones could
improvise his draft stock if he came back another year and hit .320-340. which i think he could do. the question would be how much?
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:27 pm to SammyTiger
Bear being able to come back at catcher would be big for Bear and for the '25 team provided he can be solid behind the dish. Would free up another power bat at 1B.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:44 pm to SoloTiger
I have come to the realization that Bear will have to go in the first 2 rounds or sign his contract before i give up hope he’ll be back
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:57 pm to SammyTiger
I don't think there's much more for Bear to prove in college, but I also don't think his skillset is unique enough to have teams clamoring for him early in the draft. 1B/DH only as a right-handed power hitter is fairly common and he hasn't hit for a high average to this point so he's essentially a 1-tool player. Now, that one tool is exceptional and very valuable but it limits what you can do with him.
But it only takes 1 team to think he's worth the risk so who knows what will happen. I'd love to see him back for one more season. I'd love to see what types of gains he could make with another year under Jay because he improved immensely this season.
But it only takes 1 team to think he's worth the risk so who knows what will happen. I'd love to see him back for one more season. I'd love to see what types of gains he could make with another year under Jay because he improved immensely this season.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:16 pm to nps6724
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I don't think there's much more for Bear to prove in college, but I also don't think his skillset is unique enough to have teams clamoring for him early in the draft. 1B/DH only as a right-handed power hitter is fairly common and he hasn't hit for a high average to this point so he's essentially a 1-tool player. Now, that one tool is exceptional and very valuable but it limits what you can do with him.
It seems like he has a lot to prove then.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:31 pm to SammyTiger
It's certainly possible he returns for his junior season and shows the ability to be at least a serviceable defensive catcher while also hitting 20+ HRs with an average over .300 and maybe that would be enough to increase his draft stock. But I do think his future in the pros is as a power-hitting 1B/DH. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:34 pm to nps6724
I think he’ll be a power hitting 1b/DH but he has a .301 BA
if he came back and struck out less and hit more I think that wouldn’t a long way helping his stock.
if he came back and struck out less and hit more I think that wouldn’t a long way helping his stock.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:39 pm to SammyTiger
I really don't see his stock getting better or worse in a year. Will depend on the money he gets offered and if it is worth going play in the minors or play at LSU and then probably get about the same amount next year. More than likely will take the money now while its on the table. Especially if a team likes him more than others and gives him close to 1 mil signing bonus.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:41 pm to BayTiger13
Idk Cardon wasn’t a top 3 lock before the season and he his .385 and 25 homers last year.
and he showed some positional versatility but it’s not like he was a great 3B or OF.
and he showed some positional versatility but it’s not like he was a great 3B or OF.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:43 pm to BayTiger13
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Especially if a team likes him more than others and gives him close to 1 mil signing bonus.
If someone is willing to give him $1MM, he needs to take it.
If it's $500K or less, he could get the same next year and should come back.
Anywhere in between is a grey area, IMO.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:48 pm to ProjectP2294
If he only gets offered 500k then he is getting 250k this year before taxes and agent cut. You are starting to get closer to what an NIL deal could compete with, plus he gets another year at LSU to improve vs minor league ball. I don’t think it’s out of the question that he comes back. The other argument is if he can crack the top 70 next year which would more than double his signing bonus this year.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 5:01 pm to SammyTiger
Condon can play both corner IF spots and both corner OF spots and he mashes. Jones can play 1B, which is normally a position to stick a power hitting LH. Not a good comparison.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:31 pm to BayTiger13
Seo now in the portal and I don't think it will end there. This massive roster turnover could become the new norm that we see every year.
I think it will also trickle down to how we approach high school recruiting. Go after the big guns with NIL and go after portal players instead of developmental high school players.
I think it will also trickle down to how we approach high school recruiting. Go after the big guns with NIL and go after portal players instead of developmental high school players.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:37 pm to N2daWild
I mean aren’t Tenner’s biggest stars multi year transfers? I’m afraid the era of Dugas’s and Beloso’s is over. Go get you a Christian Moore or Blake Burke out of the portal that you can develop for a couple years and go all in on the Milams and Larsons that you can plug and play at certain spots.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:38 pm to N2daWild
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This massive roster turnover could become the new norm that we see every year. I think it will also trickle down to how we approach high school recruiting.
I was thinking about this today. How should a coach approach this new era? Get the top guys in LA to build the backbone, save all your NIL for a handful of elite freshmen, supplement with the portal?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:42 pm to TooncesLeftNut
I'm with you.
What is easier to evaluate, a high school freshman or portal player? Who gives you the best chance for success?
I would still recruit the high ceiling guys but even those often don't work out. Cam Johnson, Moffett, Kling and Neal are just a few example.
Portal classes will get bigger and High school classes smaller.
What is easier to evaluate, a high school freshman or portal player? Who gives you the best chance for success?
I would still recruit the high ceiling guys but even those often don't work out. Cam Johnson, Moffett, Kling and Neal are just a few example.
Portal classes will get bigger and High school classes smaller.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:50 pm to N2daWild
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This massive roster turnover could become the new norm that we see every year.
Let’s see how it plays out at Tennessee, Florida and A&M.
Arkansas has 2 in the portal. Miss State has 6. Texas has 2.
We have 12. It seems like Jay didn’t expect this much attrition.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:00 pm to TooncesLeftNut
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I mean aren’t Tenner’s biggest stars multi year transfers?
No. They have 1 transfer in their regular line up. And the piggy back Friday starters. If AJ Russell stayed healthy their whole weekend rotation would have been homegrown.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:03 pm to lsu711
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Let’s see how it plays out at Tennessee, Florida and A&M.
I don’t see a ton of portal attrition happening with Tennessee.
Their entire regular line up except for the shortstop and some of the rotating DHs is draft eligible.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:08 pm to ProjectP2294
Jay apparently in the Cape right now. We have players / targets in every game but I’m guessing he went to see Stanfield. Got a bonus by seeing the Zsak kid from Rutgers who throws 100
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