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re: LSU Baseball 2023 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread - Old Thread - Please unpin
Posted on 8/10/22 at 9:14 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 8/10/22 at 9:14 am to thunderbird1100
I've never added the Sebastian Gonzalez kid to the list because I can't find anything confirming he's committed to us.
I really like the number of infielders in the 2023 class. Even if we lose a couple, which is always possible, we're going to bring in a ton of guys that can play all across the infield. Bringing in more than one guy each year with the potential to play shortstop is imperative. And it's something the previous staff seemed to relax on.
I really like the number of infielders in the 2023 class. Even if we lose a couple, which is always possible, we're going to bring in a ton of guys that can play all across the infield. Bringing in more than one guy each year with the potential to play shortstop is imperative. And it's something the previous staff seemed to relax on.
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 9:21 am to DRock88
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I'm not new here or to baseball. The practice of recruiting kids that young is still fairly new, and its accuracy is still not completely proven.
100% its not. You are assuming the kid will hit the weight room hard and continue down a certain path. Once you get a feel for a kids work ethic though, pretty easy to project, especially by 12 imo.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 10:20 am to lsu777
Yes, commitment to the sport and work ethic certainly matter. But, I believe you also have to look at the parents and siblings. How big is this kid going to grow? Is he the only athlete in the family? Are his parents and siblings even around for practices and games? Just some examples, and not the end all/be all, but you get the point - it's an imperfect practice. But, you have to do it if you want to keep up with the Joneses.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 10:24 am to DRock88
That kind of mirrors what I've read about scouting in the international market. That's pretty much the closest analogue to college recruiting, at least from an eval standpoint.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 10:38 am to ProjectP2294
Are
#9 C Blake Mitchell - TX
#28 LHP Cameron Johnson - MD
The only 2 guys we can right now with certainty arent going to make it in next year probably? All the other players seem to a bit lower down from them. Mitchell seems like a scouts dream. Cameron Johnson was throwing 97 this summer as a lefty. Just assume we arent getting these 2.
#9 C Blake Mitchell - TX
#28 LHP Cameron Johnson - MD
The only 2 guys we can right now with certainty arent going to make it in next year probably? All the other players seem to a bit lower down from them. Mitchell seems like a scouts dream. Cameron Johnson was throwing 97 this summer as a lefty. Just assume we arent getting these 2.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 10:58 am to thunderbird1100
What's our chances of getting Dylan Crews's unborn son?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:02 am to thunderbird1100
That's how I feel. Either of those guys would take a small miracle to get to campus. Blake Mitchell, at this point, is looking like a top half of the first round guy.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:17 am to ProjectP2294
We're finally going to have more than a few LHPs for the 2023 season. We're going to have a buttload of LHPs for the 2024 season. Good lord.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:28 am to DRock88
I've wondered if the philosophy was just to load up on lefties because you can find righties later in the process or through other procurement avenues, but lefties are a more scarce resource.
But it's also a combo of both staffs efforts. Only 2 of the LHPs committed to Jay (Johnson and Burch). The others were on board with the old staff.
ETA: Jake Brown is the real fricking deal though and I really hope we hold onto him.
But it's also a combo of both staffs efforts. Only 2 of the LHPs committed to Jay (Johnson and Burch). The others were on board with the old staff.
ETA: Jake Brown is the real fricking deal though and I really hope we hold onto him.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 11:29 am
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:41 am to ProjectP2294
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ETA: Jake Brown is the real fricking deal though and I really hope we hold onto him.
He's been tearing it up, if he gets that velocity up he could really move up the boards. I think he still kind of tops out in low 90s for now though.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 11:42 am
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:54 am to ProjectP2294
I like the style of LHP in the 2 groups. Not burning up the radar gun (fingers crossed), but stiff, good command, multiple pitches, polished. Johnson is really the only outside of that mold. Bc he can run it up there is going to be the main reason that he's more of a draft risk than the rest, so let's hope the rest wait for Wes to pump up the velo.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 11:55 am
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:59 pm to ProjectP2294
The NEW New. What's up, gents?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 2:07 pm to TravisBRTiger
Thank you admin for switching out the stickied threads. 
Posted on 8/10/22 at 4:10 pm to DRock88
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How we looking in the 2030 class?
That's some Doc Brown sh!t right there
Posted on 8/10/22 at 6:48 pm to DRock88
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But, I believe you also have to look at the parents
OMG 100% this.
Recruit the parents. You can fix anything you need to fix in the kids.
At the end of the day, you can see kids at 12 that will project to college in the field, on the basepaths, how they move, how they're mentally progressing, etc... but you can't see how they will hit quality pitching in the future. That's the ultimate separator.
And unless the kids is 1 in a million, you can't fix shitty parents.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 8:12 pm to Meauxjeaux
You can see mechanical flaws in young hitters, too, that will ultimately hinder them as pitching gets better if they don't correct it. It's one of the things that I dislike most about the travel ball circuit - the kids are getting plenty of reps, but maybe not tactical reps. They're seeing results doing things a certain way but that way will eventually just not cut it anymore, and they'll have to undo plenty of reps.
I don't know about Milazzo as far as how much ball he played outside of just high school ball, but you can clearly see that he has to undo a lot at the plate that he got results with for so long.
I can say the same about pitching. Kids gassing hitters with tens of mechanical flaws. Looks real nice on the radar gun and on the stat sheet. Those kids have hit their ceiling, or will get hurt, though. That's not even mentioning arm care when pitching so much, the mental side of pitching that's so overlooked, etc.
Floyd would be my example here. No bend, no length on his release, etc. But, he gassed people. Well, he had to learn how to pitch once hitters learned the strike zone, tunneled his fastball up, spit on offspeed, etc.
So much to unpack recruiting kids at such a young age. I still don't love it, but I'm understanding it more.
I don't know about Milazzo as far as how much ball he played outside of just high school ball, but you can clearly see that he has to undo a lot at the plate that he got results with for so long.
I can say the same about pitching. Kids gassing hitters with tens of mechanical flaws. Looks real nice on the radar gun and on the stat sheet. Those kids have hit their ceiling, or will get hurt, though. That's not even mentioning arm care when pitching so much, the mental side of pitching that's so overlooked, etc.
Floyd would be my example here. No bend, no length on his release, etc. But, he gassed people. Well, he had to learn how to pitch once hitters learned the strike zone, tunneled his fastball up, spit on offspeed, etc.
So much to unpack recruiting kids at such a young age. I still don't love it, but I'm understanding it more.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 8/11/22 at 3:28 am to ProjectP2294
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I've wondered if the philosophy was just to load up on lefties
I have a theory on this. Cain was a good recruiter but seemed over his head in roster management. Mainieri should have been helping Cain with this but he wasn't. I know this because in an interview with Mainieri, Paul wasn't even sure how many lefties we had in our next class.
Cain then blundered with lefties on the roster and went into panick mode. He then specifically targeted lefties in the future classes.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 3:33 am to ProjectP2294
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Only 2 of the LHPs committed to Jay (Johnson and Burch)
Burch is interesting. La. kid and according to that ranking, he is lower ranked. Jay must like something about him.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:34 am to ProjectP2294
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Jake Brown is the real fricking deal though and I really hope we hold onto him.
i actually hope he doesnt start running up to 95 cause then he will be drafted too high. Great kid though and great family.
If Landon Victorian keeps progressing, i doubt anyone gets him to campus. looking to be first round pick right now heading into junior year.
as far as the early kids, work ethic is the biggest thing that cant be projected. I dont think many here understand how big of a game changer lifting heavy and correctly is and how much adding weight is a complete game changer.
we need to be looking for this kids that have tons of talent, but also those that prepare like a professional and perform the following on their owni.e
-minimum of 3 metric driven weight lifting sessions per week
-8-10hours of sleep every night
-4 hours of individual skill work outside practice
-1000 calories before 9am
-maintains 3.5 or higher gpa
those are the guys who are going to seperate themselves and if they are doign the above, you dont have to worry about the parents. I say that because often it is the parents that have the dream of college ball, not the kid. if they are committed to the above then they will have shown they are committed as a player and have been for a while. In college you will essentially be forced to do those things if you want to play anyways. Those that get an early start shows great parenting.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 10:39 am to lsu777
Kade Anderson getting TJ I'm sure will allow him to get to campus since he won't be pitching his entire senior year. He was looking really really good before he got hurt. He was up to 93 too. He and Jake Brown is a great LHP duo to have if we do end up losing Johnson.
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