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Posted on 7/11/23 at 6:59 am to
Posted by Adam4848
LA
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 6:59 am to
At least 14-16
Posted by ccox11
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:07 am to
Don't forget possibly Javen Coleman and/or Riley Cooper as well. We are definitely stacked with lefties.

I still think we could stand to add a righty or two and a hitter or two.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:10 am to
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Don't forget possibly Javen Coleman and/or Riley Cooper as well. We are definitely stacked with lefties.


Coleman is most likely returning I still think Cooper gets picked up at some point and he has made it clear that he wants to sign and start his professional career so I wouldn't expect him back.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:17 am to
The first few rounds today will be where you want to watch for draft eligible LSU guys. I'm sure quite a few will get taken in the 12-13 and some will get paid over slot to get them to sign. Thinking someone like Thompson or Jobert to get taken and offered 350-400K.

After that you pay attention to the end of the draft today to see what teams that may have extra pool money to take a flyer on guys like Cam Johnson, Steven Milam, and Ashton Larson. Similar to what the Brewers did with Jaden Noot and Brady Neal last year.
Posted by WJP23
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:17 am to
Forgot about Coleman. I didn't add Cooper because of his comments about wanting to go, but he could be back if not drafted.

We carried 22 pitchers last year including the injury guys.

1. Gavin Guidry
2. Ty Floyd
3. Nic Bronzini
4. Sam Dutton
5. Paul Skenes
6. Bryce Collins
7. Thatcher Hurd
8. Jaden Noot
9. Micah Bucknam
10. Nate Ackenhausen
11. Aiden Moffett
12. Chase Shores
13. Griffin Herring
14. Riley Cooper
15. DJ Primeaux
16. Garrett Edwards
17. Blake Money
18. Kaleb Applebey
19. Will Hellmers
20. Javen Coleman
21. Grant Taylor
22. Christian Little
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 7:25 am
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:31 am to
quote:

1. Gavin Guidry
2. Ty Floyd
3. Nic Bronzini
4. Sam Dutton
5. Paul Skenes
6. Bryce Collins
7. Thatcher Hurd
8. Jaden Noot
9. Micah Bucknam
10. Nate Ackenhausen
11. Aiden Moffett
12. Chase Shores
13. Griffin Herring
14. Riley Cooper
15. DJ Primeaux
16. Garrett Edwards
17. Blake Money
18. Kaleb Applebey
19. Will Hellmers
20. Javen Coleman
21. Grant Taylor
22. Christian Little


Primeaux, Taylor, Hellmers, Edwards, Bronzini, Applebey, Shores, Moffett, Bucknam, and Noot were not part of the rotation either at the end of the year or at all.

So really we only carried 12 pitchers to be used and of those 12 we didn't use Dutton, Collins, or Little except to burn innings in a blowout loss late in the year. So thats really only 9 pitchers who we counted on. Arguably 8 if you put Money in the same category as Dutton, Collins, and Little at the end of the year.
Posted by LSU=Champions
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:39 am to
You know how they say, if you're drafted in rounds 1-10, don't expect the player to head to college? Almost the same can be said for rounds 11-16/17. For reference:

In 2022 draft, for rounds 1-10, only 3 players didn't sign pro contracts (2 in round 3 and 1 in round 10). That's well over a 99% sign rate.

For the remaining rounds:
Round 11: 29/30 signed (97%)
Round 12: 28/30 signed (93%)
Round 13: 27/30 signed (90%)
Round 14: 28/30 signed (93%)
Round 15: 27/30 signed (90%)
Round 16: 27/30 signed (90%)
Round 17: 25/30 signed (83%)
Round 18: 21/30 signed (70%)
Round 19: 18/30 signed (60%)
Round 20: 19/30 signed (63%)

LSU is not out of the woods by any stretch on draft eligible players and signees.
Posted by WJP23
Member since Feb 2023
733 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:41 am to
I think the bottom of the bullpen in 2024 should be significantly stronger than 2023 allowing them to rely on more guys at least in the early-mid season. I think they will still carry 20+ pitchers this year assuming we still are allowed 35+5.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2415 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:47 am to
Typically you can expect 18-20 pitchers on a roster come opening day.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74031 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 7:49 am to
quote:

LSU is not out of the woods by any stretch on draft eligible players and signees.


Yep, round 11 is a big re-group round. All those senior signs from the end of yesterday plus some of the big early round under slot guys pay dividends early today.

And now that the exempt bonus is up to $150k from $125k, that's just a little bit easier to meet someone's number.
Posted by banthony1
Member since Jan 2012
133 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:09 am to
I think this would be more relevant if it broke out high school players in rounds 11-20…most should concede already that most of the JR eligible returnees are gone
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50841 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:10 am to
Not many realize that since they shortened the draft, mlb teams need these players to fill out minor league rosters and teams will always be desperate for pitching

If you are 1 of 20 players in a 20 round draft getting a shot at a MLB chance, majority are taking that shot especially if they agree to be drafted.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
74031 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:13 am to
serious question: Why are you still here?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80435 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:13 am to
Is there anyway to quickly figure out the most money someone has got in rounds 11-20? Like has anyone gotten 2 mil or more?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285122 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:14 am to
The guys that go unsigned from here on out are still mainly HS kids and JUCO kids.

Like Project said, RD 11 is the big one to start off the day. It is when most team will target guys worth over slotting.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285122 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:17 am to
Last year, 3 players were paid more than $1.0mil from Rounds 11-20. Out of 299 draft picks.

$1.5 was the biggest bonus.


A few kid will get 2nd round money, and a few kids will get 4-5th Rd money, but most of these guys will get $150k or so.


86% of the players picked in Rds 5-20 last year were college players. And that has been the general trend since they swtiched the format.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80435 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:19 am to
Thats what i figured. That gives me some confidence in getting johnson. I assume his number is north of 2 mil. And if it is, and he sticks to it, i dont see a team coming up with that much, especially if its never happened
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12906 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:20 am to
I agree but it could be a negotiating tactic and still get to a number he’s happy with.
Posted by banthony1
Member since Jan 2012
133 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:22 am to
this is why I wanted some context lol..because if memory serves me right high school kids who sign are gone in the first 10 rounds
Posted by LSU=Champions
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Member since Apr 2004
22302 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 8:22 am to
The 3 million+ signings last year were $1,497,500 (11th round), $1,256,530 (11th round), and $1,325,000 (17th round). I think a team can get close or to the $2M mark, but it’d have to be the right team under the perfect conditions with a large pool and multiple, significant under slot signees.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 8:26 am
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