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re: LSU Baseball 2022 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread (OLD THREAD, PLEASE STICKY NEW ONE)

Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:53 am to
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70808 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:53 am to
Someone on 247 (David Folse) now also saying Noot is gone, and his source is not Sampson on TD supposedly
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 9:02 am
Posted by ccarrone0313
Member since Jul 2021
1619 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:09 am to
I mean how unlucky for us. Can't wait to see that number. I just don't believe it. Moving on, we got plenty of dudes that can play that wanna be here.
Posted by beardkp
H-Town
Member since Feb 2013
1036 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:09 am to
Wow.. that's crazy. As others have said, would think he would've gotten bigger day 2 offers than what he's going to sign for now. Doesn't make very much sense.
Posted by ccarrone0313
Member since Jul 2021
1619 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:17 am to
We knew they couldn't take Noot and Neal, the latter was way more important for this team even though I think Noot is a stud.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73817 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:17 am to
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As others have said, would think he would've gotten bigger day 2 offers than what he's going to sign for now. Doesn't make very much sense.


The rumor is that he's getting 2nd round money. It's not actually all that likely he would have gotten a bigger offer on Day 2 than Day 3.

On Day 2, you're starting with the third round and you don't have a gauge on how much money you can wiggle with. By day three, you've made your commitments to the 1-10 guys and know more of where you stand. There is a reason guys like this go 11-20 rather than like 4-10.

Brock Porter was little different, but he was the Rangers 2nd pick and they knew they were saving a ton on Rocker and both guys are Boras clients.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 9:49 am
Posted by JustinTI
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2006
205 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:20 am to
Noot signing was always a possibility - and a much more likely one after they saved $600k on their first pick. Will be tough to swallow if the number is under $1.5M, but I think it will end up somewhere between 1.5M and 2M. Still, I was hoping to get one of Shores/Kennedy/Noot and we did.

There are not as much shenanigans with the MLB draft as there used to be, but it is still completely incomparable to any other sport's draft. Round is nearly entirely irrelevant. As is whether someone is on campus, friends with the class, etc. If a player is drafted, all that matters is the available pool vs. their talent as a prospect (unless you have no leverage).
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 11:20 am
Posted by ccarrone0313
Member since Jul 2021
1619 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:34 am to
Congrats to the Brewers for being the first team to find that kind of value in the 19th round (YEs Yes I get 11-20 doesn't matter, I'm just disappointed). College baseball recruiting is so fun! I hope the brewers never win a ring
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 9:38 am
Posted by covtgr
Covington
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:42 am to
I don't think it's over with Noot. Just based on Johnson's interview this morning.
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29533 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:46 am to
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Brady House was little different, but he was the Rangers 2nd pick and they knew they were saving a ton on Rocker and both guys are Boras clients.

I know it's nitpicking lol but it's Brock Porter
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 9:47 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73817 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:49 am to
Thanks, fixed it. For some reason I've always mixed those two up.
Posted by subidc
CharlestonSC
Member since Nov 2019
3311 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 10:38 am to
They never really asked him. Of course they don't ask the direct questions like are you still looking for pitchers in the portal or there are rumors that Noot is signing. They ask softball questions that everyone already knows the answers to. Useless.
Posted by Biggmatt78
Pineville
Member since Dec 2014
1334 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 10:39 am to
Get skenes we’ll forget about noot
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1687 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 10:51 am to
quote:

all that matters is the available pool vs. their talent as a prospect (unless you have no leverage).


Which is why any player taking less than slot money with leverage baffles me. The clubs do not negotiate fairly or with your best interest in mind. Players should always use their leverage
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:16 am to
Wouldn't be surprising. I said that other day based on his actions it signified to me he was just using us as leverage with no intention of staying here. Wonder what the number is.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10016 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:20 am to
My hunch is that we'll get news on Skenes before next week. He will have had time to reflect, let some draft pieces move around, but it'll be time to go where he's going.

I'll say it again: I know the primary smoke has been LSU, Arkansas, and Miss St but don't be surprised to see another school swoop in. Vandy has already entered the chat as a player. I think we have as good of a shot as anyone.

ETA: I think we'll also start to see the roster take better shape overall in the next week or so once Jay knows what he's got and what he don't.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 11:24 am
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2413 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:22 am to
What actions exactly signaled you to that solution?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73817 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:23 am to
Robby Snelling got $3MM, about $1MM over slot
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10016 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:27 am to
Damn. Good for him. That's 1st round money.
Posted by JustinTI
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2006
205 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Which is why any player taking less than slot money with leverage baffles me.


Players mostly care about getting what they think they are worth. If your rankings and feedback indicate you're a 5th to 7th round talent and you set your number at $400k, it doesn't matter much what round you get picked in. If a team calls you up and say will you sign for $400k, it doesn't make any difference if it is the 2nd, 5th, 12th, or 19th round. Maybe a slight sense of pride at the higher round, but most baseball people know the number is all that matters. In a scenario in which you say you want the slot for the pick, they just won't draft you if the team does not think you're worth it.

Shitty system, but that's the way it is. I would be nice if there was a hard slot for each pick, but that's unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73817 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:52 am to
My personal opinion is that if they do the hard slot, they'll need to chop the top off the first few picks and spread all of that down.

There is almost never a player in the draft worth slot at 1/1.
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