re: Lowell "Junior" Narcisse Announcement Party (7/27 @ 6pm)

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But yet you probably don't even know what other offensive systems from the past that Malzahn took from to build his own playbook with.

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You think LSU runs a pro style offense?

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You think this is pro style? You think this is an original concept Malzahn designed himself?




The routes come from the Run & Shoot. Same as any route concepts that you see from Big XII air raid offenses.

The blocking scheme for the run game is borrowed from the old Wing T system. The backs are in a typical old school I formation except the QB is in the pistol & has the option of using the zone read. Nothing I mentioned is new or innovative.

These are all old concepts thrown together except for the pistol I & zone read aspect. Malzahn has thrown a bunch of old concepts together & makes all the presnap checks from the sideline.

There's nothing pro style about Auburn's especially when none of your skill set players (QB, WR, RB) have to make any presnap reads or adjustments themselves. That's the biggest difference between the spread & pro style. GTFO.

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You are probably right about that but going forward, a number of spread concepts are being incorporated into NFL offenses though.

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There's a big difference between using spread concepts & adapting the entire system in the NFL. The pistol formation is a legit offensive innovation. It's firmly integrated into NFL offenses now because it allows an offense to still run power traps & dives while still providing the quarterback with the visuals to see the entire field presnap.

The zone read is probably going to be a passing fad though. Several NFL teams (The 49ers for example) have shied away using the zone read since the NFL changed their rules going into 2013 where quarterbacks were fair game to be hit even if they handed the ball off. The rule change took away the normal pocket protection rules quarterbacks have when carrying out zone read fakes.

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In an officiating video distributed to the media, NFL Vice President of Officiating Dean Blandino says that read-option quarterbacks can be hit like runners, even if they don’t have the ball. If a quarterback who handed off or pitched the ball is still carrying out a fake in a running posture, he can be tackled the same way he would be if he still had the ball.

“He is still treated as a runner until he is clearly out of the play,” Blandino said. “The quarterback makes the pitch, he’s still a runner — he can be hit like a runner until he’s clearly out of the play.”

Blandino noted that if the offense is running a play designed to keep the defense guessing about who’s getting the ball, it’s only fair for the defense to be allowed to tackle both players who might have the ball.

“The quarterback and the running back, they’re both treated as runners. We don’t know who has the football, we don’t know who’s going to take it, so both players are treated as runners,” Blandino said.

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You're right that he only has Cam Newton as far as NFL prep track record, just taking it out of context since Barrett Trotter, Chris Todd and Nick Marshall aren't even backup quality QBs at other SEC schools. The rest of his years were at Tulsa/Arkansas St pretty much which aren't putting out NFL QBs anyways

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Lack of producing NFL ready prospects isn't just an issue with Gus Malzahn, it spreads across all the offensive coaches in college football who run spread offenses.

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The bigger point I believe is that Spread HUNH offenses focus on coaches making reads rather than relying on QB making reads. No reason a good coach can't teach that

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Until that changes, spread QBs will always be behind their development when they get to the NFL. There's also the aspect of not taking a snap from under center. 99.5% of fans don't even realize that the steps in a drop back are timing mechanisms for when their primary receiver is to be open. I'm not going to give another run down here but here's a link to a post discussing this. It becomes a problem though when a QB reaches the NFL having never having taken a snap under center & never having to drop back.

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There are 32 "NFL" QBs, one is from Gus. That is about as good as it gets. Very, very few programs or coaches need to make that the standard for QB development.

Come off of it. I'm all for giving Malzahn props for his system and making good college QBs, but you're talking about cheat code Cam Newton. Had he gone to LSU with our run game and defense in 2010, he would have broken just about every single record at LSU that he could and we would have been undefeated with a national championship.

The only reason we lost to Auburn (by 7) was because of his running, and we lost by 8 points to Arkansas where our QB had 230 total yards and zero TDs. You put Cam on that 2010 team with Toliver, Randle, Shepard, and TE Peterson, and we are blowing out probably every team.

Damn straight pownage on that dude. Can't wait for him to be banned for acting an arse on our board. Happy he did though, because you just slayed him.

My mistake. I thought Narcisse was a 2016. If Felipe is as good as advertised, all Narcisse would do is carry a clipboard.