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re: Louisiana Bootleggers will no longer participate in IMG events
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:57 pm to GWfool
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:57 pm to GWfool
And the reason that I keep bringing those things up is because "true amateurism" is overrated, at least in my opinion experiencing both. There's nothing to "degrade" since it's already pretty fricked up anyway. The politics, the high school helicopter parents, the petty competitiveness between kids, coaching picking favorites, etc. I'm not saying that this is the case 100% of the time but those are all things that screw up pure amateurism and none of them exist at IMG. Yea, I can see why people would be concerned about it but IMG isn't even technically a high school. It's a training facility that forces you to choose between 3 (at least when I started in 2005) high schools. IMO it's so misunderstood and complicated that it isn't even worth discussing on a place like TD and that's why I'm being so defensive about it and not really getting deep into discussion, because I know that 90% of the posters on this board aren't going to take the time to read a post that's even as long as the one I'm typing. I could literally sit down with you and talk about it for 4 hours or type a post 30x this long clarifying everything but since most people want to bitch and be petty pricks like Jester then why would I bother? If y'all have any specific questions then feel free to ask and I'll answer them clearly 
seems like people are more interested in calling me an a-hole because I'm shitting on somebody who compulsively spreads misinformation about the school in literally every single IMG thread though
I will say this though in regards to the amateurism debate: kids leave high schools to go to more competitive environments all the time in all facets of life. I've already given an analogy of that with the Harvard scholarship vs community college comment. It is what it is IMO and the kids are getting so much out of it that I don't have a problem with how it affects the mostly fricked up world of high school sports, especially since IMG only takes around 50 kids from their teams. The teams will survive and so will their teammates but IMG is an opportunity that 99% of kids would be dumb to pass up. I just jumped in the thread because I thought it was ironic that someone involved with 7 on 7 which is basically the high school AAU would try to call out a place like IMG that is genuinely a caring environment unlike a lot of 7 on 7 teams
seems like people are more interested in calling me an a-hole because I'm shitting on somebody who compulsively spreads misinformation about the school in literally every single IMG thread though I will say this though in regards to the amateurism debate: kids leave high schools to go to more competitive environments all the time in all facets of life. I've already given an analogy of that with the Harvard scholarship vs community college comment. It is what it is IMO and the kids are getting so much out of it that I don't have a problem with how it affects the mostly fricked up world of high school sports, especially since IMG only takes around 50 kids from their teams. The teams will survive and so will their teammates but IMG is an opportunity that 99% of kids would be dumb to pass up. I just jumped in the thread because I thought it was ironic that someone involved with 7 on 7 which is basically the high school AAU would try to call out a place like IMG that is genuinely a caring environment unlike a lot of 7 on 7 teams
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:03 pm to tlsu15
I'm attacking jester because he's done this shite in 10 different threads 
I understand that I'm coming across as an a-hole to him but I really don't care, he's a moron who (for some reason) wants to be an authority on shitting on IMG and the motiviation of the people who run it and transfer there, which he knows absolutely nothing about. Everything he's saying is fabricated in his head and all of the info he's been throwing around is basically copied and pasted from things I've said in past threads. But yea as I've said, if anyone has any questions or is wondering anything about the place feel free to ask, I spent 4 years there and still live a few miles away in Sarasota and I have friends who I talk to occasionally who have little brothers there so I'd say I'm still somewhat in the loop aside from my personal experience
I understand that I'm coming across as an a-hole to him but I really don't care, he's a moron who (for some reason) wants to be an authority on shitting on IMG and the motiviation of the people who run it and transfer there, which he knows absolutely nothing about. Everything he's saying is fabricated in his head and all of the info he's been throwing around is basically copied and pasted from things I've said in past threads. But yea as I've said, if anyone has any questions or is wondering anything about the place feel free to ask, I spent 4 years there and still live a few miles away in Sarasota and I have friends who I talk to occasionally who have little brothers there so I'd say I'm still somewhat in the loop aside from my personal experienceThis post was edited on 1/15/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:05 pm to daberryballer
True. IMG will always have games to play because coaches that have good teams will want to challenge the all star IMG. Beat them and you get a lot of pub,
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:21 pm to southeasttiger113
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I will say this though in regards to the amateurism debate: kids leave high schools to go to more competitive environments all the time in all facets of life. I've already given an analogy of that with the Harvard scholarship vs community college comment.
These are completely different, apples and oranges if you will. Discussing someone excelling academically and choosing a highly selective university to attend or even someone with the means to attend a prestigious university are completely separate and distinct from a professional vs. amateur sports discussion and a student attending an academy that you just admitted is not really a high school or academic institution, but only a training facility. That is their entire point it is not a high school, but really a training facility.
Personally, I don't care one way or the other whether kids attend IMG or their own school. But, you have brought no value to the thread or discussion. All you have done is derail it, which is exactly what you wanted to do I am sure.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:34 pm to GWfool
quote:Yea, most people go to Pendleton High School which just so happens to not have a sports program. They also play sports after school at IMG, which just so happens to be owned by IMG world. How is this any different than a kid going to a high school and paying for an outside strength coach, a coach to help them work on their sports technique, and playing for a select team? It's not.
attending an academy that you just admitted is not really a high school or academic institution
quote:Yea, because people are acting like going to IMG should somehow strip an athlete's amateur status just because it's owned by a sports agency, when the agency isn't involved at all with day-to-day activities and does NOTHING to steer athletes to certain schools. Their only concern is that you develop to your full potential and end up doing what makes you happy, and if you'd like to use them as your agent if you end up going pro then they'll welcome you with open arms and do their best to help you, but if you don't want to use them then you literally never have to have contact with them again after you step off campus. And my entire reason for regurgitating this is because AAU teams DO steer kids to places and do way more unethical shite than IMG and no one wants to outlaw AAU basketball or 7 on 7. IMG is just a package deal of things that you'd get anyway if you went to a normal high school. I think the whole discussion is ridiculous considering IMG was just a more efficient way to do what I was doing in 8th grade right before I moved to Bradenton
All you have done is derail it, which is exactly what you wanted to do I am sure.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:48 pm to southeasttiger113
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I'm attacking jester because he's done this shite in 10 different threads
You're completely full of shite. This is your obsession, not mine.
I challenge you to find 3 threads not started in the last 24 hours in which I commented on IMG.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:53 pm to Jester
I'm starting to believe that this dude is legit crazy.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:03 pm to southeasttiger113
Dude you ought to get away from the keyboard for a while. You were having this same "circular discussion" six hours ago. You're not going to change anyone's perception of IMG and that really doesn't matter (unless you're their PR person). So go outside and enjoy life. ??
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:08 pm to Hoodatt
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:09 pm to Jester
Yea, the guy who feels the need to enlighten me on the school that I attended for 4 years and say things like "your opinion isn't credible on IMG compared to mine" even though you don't know shite isn't a red flag that you might be a little off or anything. You've chimed in in multiple threads in the past with your know it all bullshite, it's not like your creepy name or avatar is hard to remember
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:09 pm to InTheDetails
quote:for who? we don't all have the same dangers of our kids being recruited away... the 3A competition prob. doesn't mind Dylan Moses leaving
It really threatens the fragile foundation of high school football.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:11 pm to southeasttiger113
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You've chimed in in multiple threads in the past with your know it all bullshite, it's not like your creepy name or avatar is hard to remember
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:11 pm to southeasttiger113
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You've chimed in in multiple threads in the past with your know it all bullshite, it's not like your creepy name or avatar is hard to remember
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:14 pm to Nissanmaxima
I agree. It's odd for an 17-18 year old to walk away from his senior year of high school, away from his parents, friends, and team, so that he can...what? Get a better chance at recruiting or coaching for a year? Dylan Moses is both well coached and well recruited. It's very curious.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:22 pm to southeasttiger113
So you went there for 4 years. Cool. How would your parents feel after shelling out 210K+ for 3 years then your senior year they bring in the #1 player in the nation that also plays your position? You've put in the time and a shitload of money. Now is your time to shine and be recruited heavily. You've busted your arse, put in the work, and now you're relegated to the bench. How would that feel?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:26 pm to AmericanHoop
maybe it's an indictment on BR and in Shea Patterson's case Shreveport?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:54 pm to camweb68
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I don't fault the kids for going there at all. As a parent u only want to see your kids succeed and to be happy. If they offered my son a chance to go there to train I would consider it as many parents would do.
I don't "fault" the kids/families, but I think people that make that decision going into their senior season are potentially exposing a character flaw. I'm not trying to single out Moses as he isn't the first and won't be the last to make that decision, but more often than not it would send up a red flag for me as a coach.
Maybe I'm too sentimental but I have a hard time giving a kid a pass after he leaves his entire class/team in the dust. Do I blame him? Maybe not, but some of the guys who have made that decision in the past turned out to be snakes in the grass.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:59 pm to southeasttiger113
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And these 5 star recruits invest a lot of time in themselves and deserve to be in the best situation possible. Which is IMG
This is football, not tennis.
The idea that IMG has a program that surpasses any and all traditional high schools is ridiculous. Hell, there are guys that go to IMG and fall in the rankings all the time. Surely their superior training and support would prevent such a thing, right?
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:01 pm to southeasttiger113
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Again, you're extremely clueless about IMG and the way that it works so please shut the frick up
Your attitude in this thread is Exhibit A as to why I'd be weary of the people that are leaving high school and going there as seniors.
Whatever IMG did to you, I don't want any of it rubbing off on LSU bound prospects.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:14 pm to slackster
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Your attitude in this thread is Exhibit A as to why I'd be weary of the people that are leaving high school and going there as seniors.
Whatever IMG did to you, I don't want any of it rubbing off on LSU bound prospects.
Dude comes off like a psychopath. The fact that he is convinced I continually bash IMG tells me that he has an altered view of reality.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 4:16 pm
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