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re: Louisiana Bootleggers will no longer participate in IMG events

Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:51 am to
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:51 am to
It's a great place that does great things for kids lives. IMG benefits from it but the kids benefit infinitely more. It's the definition of a mutually beneficial relationship. Sorry that the fact that they're giving kids scholarships to be in a great situation around great people and coaches bothers you. The NCAA would be doing many kids a huge disservice if they closed down IMG or made it illegal. Maybe you should try to stop being petty and get out of these threads if IMG pisses you off so much?
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26741 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:52 am to
I would have been so pissed if we lost our best player going into my senior year of high school. I get it why these players do it but come on man, this is your high school years to just up and walk away from all your friends and teammates. Guess times are just totally different now then how they use to be.

Honestly, while I'm in awe of the entire spectacle that IMG is (check out some videos on this school), I still don't see why so many kids ultimately jump to the academy. Then again, we don't know how many guys they offer and that the kids turn down. This could just be the select few they can get within the pool of guys they want.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12459 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:54 am to
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I remember reading an article about IMG years ago in sports illustrated (maybe it was SI for kids). Back then, I think the only sports they were concerned with were hard to access sports like tennis, track and field and golf



I remember that article as well.. And I think IMG works great within the confines of individual sports but when they get into football and baseball with the facilities and access they provide, a fine line is being approached.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:56 am to
Basically no one turns it down. They fly you and your family to Bradenton for free, give you a tour of the beautiful campus and world class facilities and drive you around on a golf cart all day, introduce you to the headmaster and your coaches, introduce you to your future teammates who are all welcoming and friendly because that's the culture there, and basically sign you up on the spot if you enjoy it. It's a very easy decision
Posted by kiNupe5
Member since Jun 2014
926 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 10:58 am to
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The IMG academy concept has been around in basketball for years....Oak Hill Academy, Montverde Academy...we got Ben Simmons from a basketball factory...but its not ok for IMG for have a football factory. If you don't go play against the best then how do you know how good you are and what you need to improve on...you think these kids going to IMG are going with a gun to their head....think not!


Basketball is a me sport, football players don't grow up play AAU.
Posted by kiNupe5
Member since Jun 2014
926 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:06 am to
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It's a great place that does great things for kids lives. IMG benefits from it but the kids benefit infinitely more. It's the definition of a mutually beneficial relationship. Sorry that the fact that they're giving kids scholarships to be in a great situation around great people and coaches bothers you. The NCAA would be doing many kids a huge disservice if they closed down IMG or made it illegal. Maybe you should try to stop being petty and get out of these threads if IMG pisses you off so much?


If it's there to get them prepared for the next level then go to class and just train/practice. That should be the way that's handled, you sacrifice playing a season for training. NCAA makes players sit out a year for transferring anyway so you'd be introducing them to "next level" rules also...lol. You have to think about it on a grander scale man, the coaches they leave invest a lot of time in these kids. Not every player has parents fully involved in their athletic life and alot of their development "OUTSIDE" of football falls on these coaches. In addition, these coaches feed their families based on the performance of 14-18 year old kids so if you are lucky to have a handful that are serious about sports as opposed to the majority wearing skinny leg jeans and chasing puppy love its a deep cut when someone has the ability to hand pick what they want from your time and commitment. That is why IMG is not OK. High School is not a business and I think the majority of the kids that leave IMG will have an extreme case of self entitlement and chitty personalities.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9133 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:08 am to
Will the kids that go to IMG typically get better education and training than they would at the schools they're leaving?

If so, what's the problem? To me, the more options you have to better yourself, the better.
Posted by gutter ray
Destrehan
Member since Sep 2004
74 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:13 am to
I know that Destrehan told them NO
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:35 am to
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If it's there to get them prepared for the next level then go to class and just train/practice. That should be the way that's handled, you sacrifice playing a season for training
Why? They're breaking no rules. The only thing that IMG can't do is play in the Florida High School leagues for state and they don't
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NCAA makes players sit out a year for transferring anyway so you'd be introducing them to "next level" rules also...lol
So kids can transfer from Jesuit to Brother Martin and be immediately eligible but they should have to suffer if they go from Jesuit to IMG?
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You have to think about it on a grander scale man, the coaches they leave invest a lot of time in these kids
Ok? And these 5 star recruits invest a lot of time in themselves and deserve to be in the best situation possible. Which is IMG
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In addition, these coaches feed their families based on the performance of 14-18 year old kids so if you are lucky to have a handful that are serious about sports as opposed to the majority wearing skinny leg jeans and chasing puppy love its a deep cut when someone has the ability to hand pick what they want from your time and commitment. That is why IMG is not OK. High School is not a business and I think the majority of the kids that leave IMG will have an extreme case of self entitlement and chitty personalities.
And the pettiness comes out. You have no clue what you're talking about and everything that you just said is based on assumptions that are incorrect. I can say for a 100% fact that no one that graduates from there "has an extreme case of self entitlement and a shitty personality" unless they were born with one
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 11:37 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70809 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:39 am to
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Will the kids that go to IMG typically get better education and training than they would at the schools they're leaving?


Training, yeah I guess. Education? Haha.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34451 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:45 am to
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I don't fault the kids for going there at all.


Actually, I do a bit. For the guys who are already top prospects, it does not increase their exposure at all and really just shows no loyalty to their teammates. It's a product of the cheap championship culture that is pervasive in the NBA right now. A team that sticks together and builds itself up to a champion is more impressive than a bunch of all-stars making an all-star team to beat up on the little guys.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34451 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:48 am to
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obsession




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I went there for 4 years and I've been giving info on it in threads for 2+ years now.


So, you have an inherent bias. Thanks for clearing that up for me. It borders on an obsession, though.

Piss and moan all you want, but you haven't disputed a single point that has been made. Feel free to attack them individually.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:50 am to
So it's wrong for kids who know that they'll possibly be stars in the NFL one day to go to an environment where they can get top notch training for public speaking, nutrition, how to handle the media, personal development, access to the best sports psychologists in the US, be trained by ex-NFL and NCAA players and coaches in high school, and be around other like minded elite prospects, all for free? I'm guessing you're not a very successful guy. Again, you're extremely clueless about IMG and the way that it works so please shut the frick up
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34451 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:50 am to
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The NCAA would be doing many kids a huge disservice if they closed down IMG or made it illegal.


bullshite.

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Maybe you should try to stop being petty and get out of these threads if IMG pisses you off so much?


Ahh, the butthurt autoresponse.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34451 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:54 am to
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So it's wrong for kids who know that they'll possibly be stars in the NFL one day to go to an environment where they can get top notch training for public speaking, nutrition, how to handle the media, personal development, access to the best sports psychologists in the US, be trained by ex-NFL and NCAA players and coaches in high school, and be around other like minded elite prospects, all for free?


Rabble rabble.

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I'm guessing you're not a very successful guy.


I'm plenty successful, but I won't get into a pissing match with an angry manchild on here.

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Again, you're extremely clueless about IMG and the way that it works so please shut the frick up


How? Prove any single point I've made wrong. Go!
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:55 am to
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So, you have an inherent bias. Thanks for clearing that up for me. It borders on an obsession, though.
Because some dipshit on tigerdroppings is relentlessly talking bad about a place that I know is awesome first hand? Yea, I have a bias because the place was great in almost every way and it bothers me that people who know nothing about it and have never been within 100 miles of it are pretending that they know what they're talking about.

I have reason to be in this thread defending a place that I love, you'd probably jump in to a discussion if a bunch of people from New York who have never visited Louisiana were talking shite about it and saying that "the food sucks. all they eat is chowder". That's basically what I feel like I'm reading when I see these threads
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34451 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:57 am to
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Because some dipshit on tigerdroppings is relentlessly talking bad about a place that I know is awesome first hand? Yea, I have a bias because the place was great in almost every way and it bothers me that people who know nothing about it and have never been within 100 miles of it are pretending that they know what they're talking about.


And I'm the one that should leave the thread because its contents piss me off?

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I have reason to be in this thread defending a place that I love, you'd probably jump in to a discussion if a bunch of people from New York who have never visited Louisiana were talking shite about it and saying that "the food sucks. all they eat is chowder". That's basically what I feel like I'm reading when I see these threads


Congrats. I have a reason for being in this thread, because I think IMG is a blight on amateur athletics and drives a culture of shallow competitiveness among athletics as a whole.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:59 am to
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How? Prove any single point I've made wrong. Go!
I just did in the post that you made moron. You're faulting kids who are going to be on camera talking in front of millions of people for going to a high school that teaches them how to be on camera and talk in front of millions of people. It's not rocket science
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34451 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:59 am to
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I just did in the post that you made moron. You're faulting kids who are going to be on camera talking in front of millions of people for going to a high school that teaches them how to be on camera and talk in front of millions of people. It's not rocket science



Your understanding of the words "prove" and "obsession" is clearly lacking.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:01 pm to
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Congrats. I have a reason for being in this thread, because I think IMG is a blight on amateur athletics and drives a culture of shallow competitiveness among athletics as a whole.
Congrats, you're wrong. But thanks for sharing your opinion
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