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re: Logan Diggs - not really talked about on the board

Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39159 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:07 am to
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I really wanted him to and Kaleb to be the 1 and 2 last year. They were our best 2 backs.

No they weren’t. Josh Williams is consistently underrated. Diggs and Williams were our best two. Kaleb is our most talented, though.
Posted by Nitrogen
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2016
3892 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 11:10 am to
Loved watching him play, but its f him now since he chose Ole Piss
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26626 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Nah, he was serviceable. Best of an average group.

Jayden Daniels & the offense gave him a much better opportunity to thrive than most offenses would have otherwise,
I don't believe this in the slightest. He was good at Notre Dame and good at LSU. When given volume, he was better and better. I have no idea what happened to where they stopped giving him carries. We heard upper body injuries and everything else including discipline. However that 4 game stretch through 4 SEC teams was damn good. If used the same way, he should have had well over 900 yards before we even got to TAMU. Before the Army game, he was on pace for 1074 yards and 9 TDs in only 11 regular season games.

Whatever happened to him is the reason why Daniels had to ball out of control to finish the season. We were a way below average RB rushing unit when he disappeared. His first 6 games (5 SEC games), he averaged 97 yards a game at 5.9 yards per carry.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14492 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:10 pm to
I think he was hurt and LSU needed the scholarship.
Posted by Lock,Stock
Member since Nov 2012
261 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:35 pm to
I don’t have any insider info but it seems like LSU essentially either asked him to leave or take a reduced role (playing time, NIL, etc…). I’m sure some of this is due to the injury but also some is because the staff wanted the younger guys to get more looks. Diggs is a good back when healthy but no one knows what he will look like post injury. I don’t fault him for leaving if OM gave him more money or playing time. I think they are basically using him as an insurance policy for late in the year if they make playoff run and need fresh legs. Pretty smart play tbh.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7876 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:59 pm to
Right now the defense isn’t capable of tattooing anybody as much as I’d like them to with Diggs as well.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
4991 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:15 pm to
I agree with your assessment of our running back rotation. It doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason. Like most everything in college football now, I imagine it's oftentimes affected by NIL and the portal - pay up and give them more carries or they transfer.

Find a couple who are producing and feed them the ball. It seems detrimental to send a guy in for two carries and another for three, while the best backs are sitting on the sidelines.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20354 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Diggs was a very good back



Nah, he was serviceable. Best of an average group.
I'm good with this; he was okay and solid, but not spectacular. Best comparison might be TDP or Brossette.

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Jayden Daniels & the offense gave him a much better opportunity to thrive than most offenses would have otherwise,
Disagree with that.

Both Davis-Price and Brossette had 1k rushing seasons, as did Edwards-Helaire.
Diggs ran for under 700 yds at LSU; part of that is he only played 9 games (started 8), but a bigger issue was that Daniels was a big rushing threat; so we'd call plays for Daniels to specificially run the ball, and also call plays for Daniels to drop back, and take off if he saw a lane. Daniels got 1k yds that way.

The offense under Nussmeier (a much more traditional offense) would benefit Diggs a lot more, as you would call more runs for the backs. Diggs would have been looking at a 1k season this year here.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278270 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:28 pm to
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He was good at Notre Dame and good at LSU


The word “good” is relative.


He wasn’t bad, so he must be “good”? Idk.

A serviceable back in that offense would surely look “good”.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131325 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:08 pm to
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not really talked about on the board


Because this is the recruiting board. Not the “throw shade on former players” board.
Posted by NorthstarinLA
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2020
671 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:10 pm to
He supposedly told Frank at the FSU game in warmups...I am not feeling it so not playing. Very "me first" attitude.
Posted by LSUGlory16
Mville
Member since Jun 2014
1133 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:54 pm to
Jordy said several times this past season he would walk off the practice field in the middle of practice.
Posted by Mr Cell Phone
Member since Nov 2021
427 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:01 am to
Kalab Jackson is a grown azz man who can run with a football and carry a team . The best physical talent sense Leonard Fournette made his way on campus .
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1784 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:01 am to
I have no idea why he left, but he did. TigerBait.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1135 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:48 am to
Agree. Add in the Durham kid to the conversation. He will get snaps this year. He had track speed, and couldn't be stopped at the highest level of high school football. So Diggs probably saw RB by committee coming this year. Both Jackson and Durham could break out and become stars.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8544 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:18 am to
He’s a good RB but he’s not a good locker room guy. Will leave it at that
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
6946 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:26 am to
KWL, I was about to add this:
quote:

Add in the Durham kid to the conversation. He will get snaps this year. He had track speed, and couldn't be stopped at the highest level of high school football. So Diggs probably saw RB by committee coming this year. Both Jackson and Durham could break out and become stars.

Barring injury they will both be really good. Just need to make sure Frank is happy with their pass-blocking, but he'll teach them well...
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19816 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 5:07 pm to
Carries were a issue
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1784 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:15 pm to
He's Tigerbait now. Josh, KJ and hopefully Holly and Durham will be fine. I also think a glance at Aaron Anderson receiving passes from that position could be interesting.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59014 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:59 pm to
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Add in the Durham kid to the conversation. He will get snaps this year.


I think he has to. Frank needs to do whatever it takes to fast track him into the game plans as early as possible. One, we're thin at RB, and he has the size and speed to play as a true freshman. It's typically been one of, if not the, easiest position to translate immediately to college from high school from. I think a lot has changed in the passing game the past decade though, and RBs in offenses like LSU's have to not only know their pass pro assignments, but be able to actually pick guys up.

Don't have to pancake them or be as good as Josh Williams, but have to at least get a big enough piece of them to knock them off their path and give Nuss that valuable extra second or so to step up and deliver the ball. They also have to be able to run routes and catch the ball out of the backfield and be a part of the passing game. It's a great way to get them the ball in space with either a designed pass to them or to be open for a check down.

Frank likes to use a lot of backs, especially upperclassmen who may not be as explosive as the freshmen, but who can do everything right. It makes us less predictable. When Williams is in there, we can run anything. If Jackson was in there last year, he was probably getting the ball. But I think this year is extremely important because of the guys we have coming in in '25. Jackson has to separate himself from Durham and Durham has to have enough touches to separate himself from the group of '25 guys. We're trying to sign the best RB in the '25 class and 2 more really good ones (or at least 1). It's imperative that everybody is has developed to their respective class level by he end of the season. God love him, but we can't have Josh Williams playing most of the snaps just to keep the defense honest and not figuring out tendencies.

Frank has got to find expanded roles for Jackson and Durham so that there is clear separation from them and the incoming '25 class with Berry, Linsdey, and hopefully Simon. But a lot of that is going to come down to how hard Jackson and Durham work on the little things, how much effort they put into learning the mental part, and how much Frank gives them opportunities that he might not have previously. Partly because we can't have predictable tendencies when they come in, partly because we need clear separation in classes when that early signing period comes for the class of '25, but maybe mostly because they're both really fricking good and could really be weapons this year.

And I think big, strong, fast backs like Jackson and Durham can do big things in the "new" running game that's gonna feature more pulling and take advantage of the athleticism of our tackles. Frank's gonna have really try to speed up his development process for the young guys for a lot of reasons. A big one also being we're very thin there--I'm not convinced Holley plays this year or that he's even that good--and we're gonna need them both to be big parts of the offense at some point THIS YEAR to make it as well rounded, unpredictable, and explosive as possible.

One good thing about not having numbers at RB--having 8 scholarship guys last year was absurd--is that they'll all get more attention than usual. And Josh knows everything, he can basically be a coach on the field, an extension of Frank. But if those 3 backs stay healthy, and Frank gets Jackson and Durham up to speed fast enough that we can play any of the 3 on any play without giving up anything on tendencies, this offense should be fricking elite. As long as Nuss stays healthy. He's got weapons galore, and I think Sloan will have him spreading the ball out to 4-5 WRs, 2-3 TEs, and a couple of backs. If we get Jackson and Durham breaking some long runs, the play-action game is going to really open up, and Nuss will be hitting Lacey, Hilton, and Daniels for TDs were they're just standing in the end zone, with the closest DB 20 yards behind them. Zavion Thomas is gonna be a beast with YAC too. Pimpton's gonna make some big contested catches to move the chains or go over guys for TDs.

But a lot of this year's success--and next year's recruiting success--is gonna come down to how fast we can get Jackson and Durham up to speed.
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