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misey94
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re: Linebackers going forward
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So stop with the bull shite that these guys are leaving. They are only leaving if they are shortsighted or they forget that there are probably 60 or so draft eligible interior LBs.


I think this is true. It’s super critical for RBs to go as soon as possible because of their short shelf life. Getting to the second contract is more important for them than where you get drafted, as long as you know you will.

LBs will usually have a longer career if they are good, so maximizing earnings on the first contract is more important. That means coming back if you can improve by a round or more. Both Stevens and Queen can if they improve their weaknesses to go along with their considerable athleticism.


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2003tigerfan
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re: Linebackers going forward
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Is Tyler Taylor gone for good?
Good question...it’s been like 2 years...was he ever convicted?


Cheesy Beaver
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re: Linebackers going forward
he's in JC right now


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ELchapoLSU
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re: Linebackers going forward
Phillips might leave but I don’t see Queen leaving


Lester Earl
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re: Linebackers going forward
Queen is a better pro prospect than Phillips


Fast Times @ LSU
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re: Linebackers going forward
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I saw both in a top 100 list just this week


an area for improvement is our players pre-NFL Draft ratings
we've had too many jr leave early only to not get drafted, at all.


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misey94
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re: Linebackers going forward
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Queen is a better pro prospect than Phillips


If Stevens comes back and gets better in coverage as a Safety, then he could go higher. That’s what’s holding him back.


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Chalkywhite84
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Dec 2016
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re: Linebackers going forward
Phillips film is way better

I also see Phillips leaving before queen but I could see both staying
Jacob Phillips likes hunting and shite
Unless he is a top 2 round pick he isn't coming out


Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
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re: Linebackers going forward
Winning the Natty will have a BIG impact on whether some of these tweeners come back or not, Shelvin with a big night and win could go, Phillips with a big win and top tackler on a 15-0 team could go, I do believe Queen will stay will be leader of the LB crew next year regardless.


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Lester Earl
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re: Linebackers going forward
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Phillips film is way better


I like Phillips just fine, but no

If you think Phillips has close to the range as Queen you’re nuts. He is on path for a Debo Jones-like ascension. Simply put on the tape, esp both Bama games the last two years.


BeeFense5
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Are you still holding on to your take earlier this season that this season’s linebacking group was the best in school history?

I was surprised by that opinion just wondering what you think at seasons end?


Lester Earl
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Well Divinity has missed 9 games now, but KLC, Queen, Phillips & Stevens have all been great


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Fast Times @ LSU
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re: Linebackers going forward
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If you think Phillips has close to the range as Queen you’re nuts. He is on path for a Debo Jones-like ascension.


Queen is a fantastic athlete. He's made some jaw-dropping plays this season, and he's also been out of position, causing us to give up explosive plays to the opposition. I see a more direct comparison to Devin White as a Soph vs. Devin White as a junior to Patrick Queen. As a soph, White made some great plays, but also made some bad reads. As a jr, White was almost unstoppable, and his reads were much improved. if we get that from Queen next fall, look out!


Lester Earl
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I agree very much with that. I do think he goes pro tho but that’s just me. His best football is ahead of him


Srobi14
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Member since Aug 2014
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re: Linebackers going forward
Idk we got some good ones coming in as freshman. That white and Webb will probably push for playing time. Brooks already looks good as well as clark. Queen would really hold the whole defense together in the center if he came back IMO.


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Chalkywhite84
New Orleans Saints Fan
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re: Linebackers going forward
Did i say he has the range as Phillips, no.
I said he has the better tape this year
I think queen is a good linebacker also but he has been out of position alot more


Chalkywhite84
New Orleans Saints Fan
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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re: Linebackers going forward
So wait you agree he has been out of position and his best football is ahead but are arguing he has better film than Phillips this year? Lol

Damn man do you get tired of always swinging for the fences and then missing wildly


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Lester Earl
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re: Linebackers going forward
It’s like the argument in baseball

The more range you have the more chances you have to make an error.

Phillips is safe & good at what he does; work down hill inside the box

But Queen is sideline to sideline, can thump between the tackles & fill holes, & is really good in coverage for an LB.


Carville
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re: Linebackers going forward
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But Queen is sideline to sideline, can thump between the tackles & fill holes, & is really good in coverage for an LB.

And is usually directly responsible for most of the big plays against this defense.


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