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re: Linebackers going forward

Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:31 am to
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23326 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:31 am to
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So stop with the bullshite that these guys are leaving. They are only leaving if they are shortsighted or they forget that there are probably 60 or so draft eligible interior LBs.


I think this is true. It’s super critical for RBs to go as soon as possible because of their short shelf life. Getting to the second contract is more important for them than where you get drafted, as long as you know you will.

LBs will usually have a longer career if they are good, so maximizing earnings on the first contract is more important. That means coming back if you can improve by a round or more. Both Stevens and Queen can if they improve their weaknesses to go along with their considerable athleticism.
Posted by 2003tigerfan
Member since Aug 2018
2024 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:55 am to
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Is Tyler Taylor gone for good?
Good question...it’s been like 2 years...was he ever convicted?
Posted by Cheesy Beaver
Kenna brah
Member since Dec 2014
4424 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:10 am to
he's in JC right now
Posted by ELchapoLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
1458 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:36 pm to
Phillips might leave but I don’t see Queen leaving
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278137 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:49 pm to
Queen is a better pro prospect than Phillips
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
1321 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:35 pm to
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I saw both in a top 100 list just this week


an area for improvement is our players pre-NFL Draft ratings
we've had too many jr leave early only to not get drafted, at all.
Posted by FullFontE
RTP
Member since Jan 2020
374 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23326 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:58 pm to
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Queen is a better pro prospect than Phillips


If Stevens comes back and gets better in coverage as a Safety, then he could go higher. That’s what’s holding him back.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27007 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:04 pm to
Phillips film is way better

I also see Phillips leaving before queen but I could see both staying
Jacob Phillips likes hunting and shite
Unless he is a top 2 round pick he isn't coming out
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5315 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:36 pm to
Winning the Natty will have a BIG impact on whether some of these tweeners come back or not, Shelvin with a big night and win could go, Phillips with a big win and top tackler on a 15-0 team could go, I do believe Queen will stay will be leader of the LB crew next year regardless.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278137 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:43 pm to
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Phillips film is way better


I like Phillips just fine, but no

If you think Phillips has close to the range as Queen you’re nuts. He is on path for a Debo Jones-like ascension. Simply put on the tape, esp both Bama games the last two years.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:45 pm to
Are you still holding on to your take earlier this season that this season’s linebacking group was the best in school history?

I was surprised by that opinion just wondering what you think at seasons end?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278137 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:57 pm to
Well Divinity has missed 9 games now, but KLC, Queen, Phillips & Stevens have all been great
Posted by Fast Times @ LSU
Camas
Member since Jan 2005
1321 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:10 pm to
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If you think Phillips has close to the range as Queen you’re nuts. He is on path for a Debo Jones-like ascension.


Queen is a fantastic athlete. He's made some jaw-dropping plays this season, and he's also been out of position, causing us to give up explosive plays to the opposition. I see a more direct comparison to Devin White as a Soph vs. Devin White as a junior to Patrick Queen. As a soph, White made some great plays, but also made some bad reads. As a jr, White was almost unstoppable, and his reads were much improved. if we get that from Queen next fall, look out!
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278137 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:21 pm to
I agree very much with that. I do think he goes pro tho but that’s just me. His best football is ahead of him
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3516 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:23 pm to
Idk we got some good ones coming in as freshman. That white and Webb will probably push for playing time. Brooks already looks good as well as clark. Queen would really hold the whole defense together in the center if he came back IMO.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27007 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:33 pm to
Did i say he has the range as Phillips, no.
I said he has the better tape this year
I think queen is a good linebacker also but he has been out of position alot more
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27007 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:35 pm to
So wait you agree he has been out of position and his best football is ahead but are arguing he has better film than Phillips this year? Lol

Damn man do you get tired of always swinging for the fences and then missing wildly
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278137 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:37 pm to
It’s like the argument in baseball

The more range you have the more chances you have to make an error.

Phillips is safe & good at what he does; work down hill inside the box

But Queen is sideline to sideline, can thump between the tackles & fill holes, & is really good in coverage for an LB.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:42 pm to
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But Queen is sideline to sideline, can thump between the tackles & fill holes, & is really good in coverage for an LB.

And is usually directly responsible for most of the big plays against this defense.
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