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re: JUCO Targets
Posted on 9/19/17 at 5:20 am to BayouBengal99
Posted on 9/19/17 at 5:20 am to BayouBengal99
If Kendall Jones has continued grade issues, then we have to look elsewhere. As to his possible weight issue, every lineman coming into CFB has some issue with weight. Finally, as far as his talent is concerned, coming out of high school he signed with Alabama.
If he gets his grades, I have to believe he will be a good player for us.
If he gets his grades, I have to believe he will be a good player for us.
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 5:34 am to Musa I of Mali
The hulk has academic problems but I've read that he wants to return to Bama
Posted on 9/19/17 at 12:59 pm to arkytiger23
Hey, arky. I really appreciate all the info you bring to the recruiting board, but why do you put so many exclamation points in your posts? Calm down, buddy lol!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:30 pm to Mr. Hangover
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God damn, that's an awful lot of assumptions just from one picture
Well just look at his list of offers to go with it:
Fresno St
SoMiss
He had FBS offers when he was a soph in HS when he weighed 330. He was up to 360 his final season and 380 by the time he finished HS. Now well over 400.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:42 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Kendell Jones isn't even playing. He's not even listed on the Co-Lin football roster. Looks like he quit football.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 7:37 pm to Mr. Hangover
Ummm no it's not actually. He could be in a gym and eating right trying to be in football shape. I mean I don't know his whole story so if he's injured or what ever then I apologize but if not then I stand by my statement.
That's not what LSU needs at this time. This guy looks like he would have serious issues and take at least a year to get into shape. That's not what we need at this time is all I'm saying. I'm not saying he won't ever be worth a damn in the right place but that place isn't LSU IMO.
Shelvin is a bit different situation, he was hurt and gained all kinds of weight and he's quite young. He another guy that will be a year or two given his past to be ready to play big time football consistently. LSU needs guys that want to be great NOW.
BTW I do like that OT you posted Arky, dude has a nice punch and his footwork is solid, has a good base.
That's not what LSU needs at this time. This guy looks like he would have serious issues and take at least a year to get into shape. That's not what we need at this time is all I'm saying. I'm not saying he won't ever be worth a damn in the right place but that place isn't LSU IMO.
Shelvin is a bit different situation, he was hurt and gained all kinds of weight and he's quite young. He another guy that will be a year or two given his past to be ready to play big time football consistently. LSU needs guys that want to be great NOW.
BTW I do like that OT you posted Arky, dude has a nice punch and his footwork is solid, has a good base.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:24 pm to BayouBengal99
I agree he reminds me of another valentine situation. Shelvin has always been a big sob yet when it came time to make a change he lost the weight. Lopez is a damn good prospect though imo he's played tackle, guard, and taken snaps at center so he's experienced everywhere. Offering him means a commit and locking up Traore
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:42 pm to arkytiger23
Yep Shelvin also carries his weight very well. It slows him down a bit and takes lots of oxygen to keep him playing so he needs to be around 320 to 325 is a very good weight for him, would be extremly strong and hard to move like Ed Alexander is.
Orgeron does need to do a better job at keeping these guys in shape, I mean I know it's ultimately up to them but he can be a motivator of sorts for them. That's his baby, the DL, so we should at least be very strong there. The OL will also improve IMO, but it will take some time. That second group we have are very tough, from what I've seen so get another group like them in here, coupled with some Juco guys and LSU should be at least competitive. Same goes for the DL.
I also think we need more QBs, bigger MLBs, and add talented DBs. I think we should play the better overall prospects that are currently on the roster and not the veterans per say, because from what I've seen, the veterans are making just as many mistakes, so get the talented guys their reps now.
We absolutely have to play better than we showed Saturday but I think we will and I'm not freaking out just yet. Not until I see similar play like we just did consistently, which I haven't seen yet from an Orgeron coached team. I think that was more of an anomaly than it was the norm. We'll see this week, then going into Florida. We have to beat both Florida and Auburn if we want to have a decent season. If that happens then their confidence in themselves will start to grow. GT
Orgeron does need to do a better job at keeping these guys in shape, I mean I know it's ultimately up to them but he can be a motivator of sorts for them. That's his baby, the DL, so we should at least be very strong there. The OL will also improve IMO, but it will take some time. That second group we have are very tough, from what I've seen so get another group like them in here, coupled with some Juco guys and LSU should be at least competitive. Same goes for the DL.
I also think we need more QBs, bigger MLBs, and add talented DBs. I think we should play the better overall prospects that are currently on the roster and not the veterans per say, because from what I've seen, the veterans are making just as many mistakes, so get the talented guys their reps now.
We absolutely have to play better than we showed Saturday but I think we will and I'm not freaking out just yet. Not until I see similar play like we just did consistently, which I haven't seen yet from an Orgeron coached team. I think that was more of an anomaly than it was the norm. We'll see this week, then going into Florida. We have to beat both Florida and Auburn if we want to have a decent season. If that happens then their confidence in themselves will start to grow. GT
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 12:42 am
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:18 pm to arkytiger23
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Dorian Gerald and Traore are the top two targets right now. I think we will explore more defensive options and a few offensive but those are the two we're after right now along with Moore already committed
Gerald's film is the best of the 3 IMO. He is the SDE that we have been missing, dude can pass rush like a beast, I dont know how he isnt a solid 4-star bordering on 5-star.
Moore will be an OLB, and will be serviceable, but I don't see where he is worth the JUCO scholarship, as we should have Chassion, Anthony, Martin, and Cherry coming in, but of course I'm happy to have him as a Tiger.
Badara's film isnt as impressive as I would have hoped for the #1 OT in JUCO. He's pretty good with run blocking, but doesnt have super quick footwork on the passrush; hope Im dead wrong because it is the biggest need by far in this next class.
Here is an update on his recruitment. Seemed pretty high on Auburn and Texas, not sure he is the slam dunk that we thought he would be, unless Im missing something. If you want to just hear the lsu talk skip forward to 6:15.
Skip to 6:15
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:22 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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Chassion, Anthony, Martin, and Cherry
Anthony and Martin have yet to play a down and neither might this year, so Moore is needed.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:50 pm to Joe Mantegna
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Anthony and Martin have yet to play a down and neither might this year, so Moore is needed.
Very true, but either way, it is a mismanagement of numbers. I forgot to add Dantreize Scott also, thats 6 guys for one spot, as Buck OLB. I know there are some packages where we may be able to put two on the field in the same down.
Like I said, I'm not complaining as Moore wants to be a tiger and is from North Louisiana where we continually need to retain footholds, but the biggest concern is at OT, and I'm not sure Badara will be enough. Wire will need at least one year, if not two or three to get SEC ready with how raw he is.
I actually think Ferriday could come in and start at RT, and be our first elite LT, taking over the next year, since La'el Collins.
I miss the days of Chris Faulk, Ciron Black, Joe Barksdale, and even Jerald Hawkins. OT is the weakest position by far. KJ Malone is a backup guard most years on a decent LSU Oline.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:00 pm to Musa I of Mali
Maybe too late of a revelation by O that he needs Jucos. Looks like most of the top talent on Dline is committed to big programs already.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 8:28 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
We need to sign as many quality lineman as we can. I don't care where they come from, but we have got to get the big uglies like we used to have.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:12 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Shea is basically reporting exactly that.
They should be calling Traore every day begging him to come in and start day 1.
I said it month's ago regarding JUCO OTs...
Grimes better recruit him like his job depends on it, because it just might.
The most common response I got to that was something along the lines of we had the #2 rated OL last year. I still scoff at that. Did then, do now. Fournette & Guice's ability to break long one's skewed those statistics that that ranking was based on.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:13 am to texastigerr
You think decommitments are common in the sec.. most guys jump on their first big offer in juco but their recruitment in most cases stays open. From the few I've spoken to this week playing time at LSU is lighting their minds up! They love the fact they could step right into a starting role or solid rotation so I have zero doubt we can flip our targets
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:30 am to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Agreed 110% on Dorian guy is just a monster.. he would wreck havoc under aranda. He really likes LSU and will be visiting soon wouldn't be shocked if he flipped during the visit. Guy loves aranda, LSU and everything about our defense. Moore will be a solid contributor or could just be the guy who never filters through.. I think it's more of what you said take the chance to get the NLA guy who's remained loyal for over a year now. He has very good upside so who knows could turn into a star. And Traore I agree his film isn't A+ but you can tell with a half decent team surrounding him he'd be solid! His structure screams starting RT/LT his arms and strength will help and coaching/teaching will take him a long way. But like I've said in other post Lopez is a solid OT/guard from ASA as well. wherever he ends up he'll start or be a solid contributor plus bring great leadership. I whole heartedly believe Traore will be in P&G but we'll see
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:22 am to thunderbird1100
He hasn't quit and he is still there.Mississippi JUCO's can only have so many out of state kids on roster ,I believe it's five or six.He just isn't good enough to be one of limited few they can have.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:25 am to arkytiger23
Lewis would not be a bad depth add.He had major issues blocking both of those stud East MS CC DL's last year,so that's a concern.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 5:31 am to arkytiger23
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:57 am to ifyouonlyknew
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He hasn't quit and he is still there.Mississippi JUCO's can only have so many out of state kids on roster ,I believe it's five or six.He just isn't good enough to be one of limited few they can have.
Limit is 5 on scholly and 8 total, they have 7 listed so not sure your comment makes any sense.
The limit isn't just on the roster but actual scholarships they can award so why would they be giving him a scholly and not list him because they are under the total limit of 8? They could not give his scholly to someone else if he was still there and if he was paying his own way they could still put him on the roster as they have one spot available.
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