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re: Jimmy Detail is on the warpath...
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:39 pm to sicboy
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:39 pm to sicboy
Hey, he's passionate and stands up for something greater than himself. Good for him. This is his area of expertise. So I won't question it.
At first I felt like this was some really random incident.. but seems like it happens often.
I couldn't understand what motive or why a coach would do this.. but there's always some sort of strange reasoning (in another person's head) Perhaps not to let the kids get a big head.. perhaps just more control type of situation..
I don't think it's right to hold out on the players.. this is about their future and if they want to start weighing their options.. they shouldn't have a coach hold out on them the info because he believe it's right.
At first I felt like this was some really random incident.. but seems like it happens often.
I couldn't understand what motive or why a coach would do this.. but there's always some sort of strange reasoning (in another person's head) Perhaps not to let the kids get a big head.. perhaps just more control type of situation..
I don't think it's right to hold out on the players.. this is about their future and if they want to start weighing their options.. they shouldn't have a coach hold out on them the info because he believe it's right.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:39 pm to tigerskin
Again how do you propose to get the address of a minor legally?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:47 pm to sicboy
Can coaches reach out to kids directly, or must they go through the coach?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:55 pm to beauchristopher
Jimmy definitely comes across as being all about the kids. I asked him about if his twitter feed is a nightmare because of all the players he follows during the recruitment process, and he said he's always trying to give them advice on what they put out there on social media and what they don't.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:37 pm to BigEdLSU
Have them fill out their home address on camp info and the questionnaire they fill out for your school. No questionnaire, no camp, no info.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:52 pm to sicboy
So recruiting letters go to the school and not the kids house
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:52 pm to JJ27
Right... Reinforces my belief that camps should be opened up to where they are easy to attend.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:19 pm to beauchristopher
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I couldn't understand what motive or why a coach would do this.
My high school coach withheld letters from former A&M DE Jay Arnold his freshman year until spring practices ended. But that was likely because he knew Jay could be special and didn't want him to get a big head. Now this is different then what JimmyD is talking about, but not giving a kid the letters at all is just wrong.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:32 pm to Prominentwon
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Just happened: SEC school visits a HS, head coach gives zero names, makes zero introductions, shared no info. Happens every day. Sad
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:01 pm to sicboy
That's absolutely repugnant, and in another field would be considered malpractice. Hurting the future of 17 year olds for crying out loud.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:43 pm to tigerskin
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I didn't say unlimited access.
then you're just adding more rules to an already burdensome set of rules.
Just make a cutoff and work with it.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:16 pm to sicboy
I do not know how any of this works BUT
If i was a coach, I would have the Kid and His legal guardians sign permission to release his address to colleges who request it.
I would not want to be a go between. Its not part of the job.
This tells me that some HS coaches might/must be on the take.
Certainly Colleges know the possible influence a HS coach may have........why would they keep going thru the corches and just send it directly to the players home?
And how did the Dad in the video "Stumble across a box of letters in a coaches class room"?
If i was a coach, I would have the Kid and His legal guardians sign permission to release his address to colleges who request it.
I would not want to be a go between. Its not part of the job.
This tells me that some HS coaches might/must be on the take.
Certainly Colleges know the possible influence a HS coach may have........why would they keep going thru the corches and just send it directly to the players home?
And how did the Dad in the video "Stumble across a box of letters in a coaches class room"?
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:49 pm to sicboy
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Beware: I know a lot of your secrets and exposing you guys won't be an issue for me. This will change and our coalition will make sure of it
Sounds like he just burnt some bridges and no one will ever trust him again
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:02 pm to LordoftheManor
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That's absolutely repugnant, and in another field would be considered malpractice. Hurting the future of 17 year olds for crying out loud.
I pretty much agree with shea and those of you who say it's reprehensible for a coach to withhold letters from a high school athlete based upon the coach's bias, but I can see a flip-side to it, as well. Good coaches who care about their players could temper the rate and amount of letters that a player receives based on the the player's best interests. Say, for instance, a HS coach knows that his player can be successful in a structured environment but that such and such college coach lets the inmates run the asylum. The HS coach might de-emphasize that coach/college insofar as he thinks that doing so is in the player's best long-term interests. I'm just hypothesizing, though, and have no idea how likely or unlikely this scenario is. Further, my hypothetical isn't aimed at the situation Shea is pointing out, but is just an observation about why some coach's discretion might not be an inherently bad thing for HS players.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:05 pm to DontCare
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Say, for instance, a HS coach knows that his player can be successful in a structured environment but that such and such college coach lets the inmates run the asylum. The HS coach might de-emphasize that coach/college insofar as he thinks that doing so is in the player's best long-term interests
Absolutely in no way, shape, or form should this be the coach's decision. Pass it on the to the parents. They can help keep them informed, but that's overstepping their bounds.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:07 pm to DontCare
It's not the right of a coach to make that call. Imo that coach has no right to restrict a kids future based on what he thinks he knows best.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:14 pm to sicboy
No way a coach should be deciding what they think is best or not to pass along. Do teachers decide what college students that are offered academic scholarships go to? They can give their opinion but the info shouldn't be hidden.
Jimmy, this is a perfect example of why trying to fix it coach by coach won't be the ticket. Has to be a rule change to take the coaches out of the way.
Jimmy, this is a perfect example of why trying to fix it coach by coach won't be the ticket. Has to be a rule change to take the coaches out of the way.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:25 pm to sicboy
Maybe I'm old school, but I don't think a journalist should be playing an active role in recruitments anyway. I believe Jimmy has good intentions, but all his involvement in Louisiana high school football is a conflict of interest to his journalistic duty IMO.
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