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Is the consensus a top class will fix our problems?

Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:14 pm
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:14 pm
I think that’s what Jimbo Fisher thought too.
Posted by TigerLifer18
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:39 pm to
Fair point, but Jimbo didn’t have a generational QB recruit in his class.

A&M had a bunch of guys with an attitude.

Do you get that vibe from Underwood, Pickett, Berry, Ross, etc?
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1222 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:46 pm to
I mean I don’t personally know them. They are kids and will have a butt load of NIL $ so anything could happen.

Al of these players mentioned seem like they have the talent. We will see if they are signed by ESD.
Posted by NCaddoTigerfan
Member since Aug 2021
618 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:10 pm to
A top class usually doesn’t contribute as a whole until their 2nd year. Of course you have your exceptions. Kelly’s refusal to go after top talent last year in the portal and instead bargain binning doomed this season. This roster isn’t getting better fast enough. 10 million a year should get you better than what he’s producing.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

Fair point, but Jimbo didn’t have a generational QB recruit in his class.


How many generational players do you people really think there are? Every day we hear about a generational player. How long is a generation? Define what being generational means.
Is Underwood a better prospect than Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields were? They were described as generational also. Are either? How about Caleb Williams? When we thought Brady was gonna land him some of us thought him to be generational too. Is he? Was/is Burrow? The great Mac Jones damn near matched him a year later. Is he? How many people called Tom Brady generational until he proved to be? How about Mahomes? Don't remember him being called generational when we played him.
Underwood may very well be generational. Problem is we won't know for a generation. I only care if he wins games at LSU. Being generational is something that I couldn't care less about. Particularly when 5-10 high schoolers a year are described as such. It's nonsense.
Posted by IntenseKid
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:44 am to
We need players with some physicalness and swagger.
Posted by Billy Johnson
Member since Oct 2024
432 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:55 am to
To be honest, I don’t think even Underwood will be able to overcome the coaching flaws that Kelly has.
Posted by Dead Mike
Cell Block 4
Member since Mar 2010
3732 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 12:58 am to
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How many generational players do you people really think there are? Every day we hear about a generational player. How long is a generation? Define what being generational means. Is Underwood a better prospect than Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields were? They were described as generational also. Are either? How about Caleb Williams? When we thought Brady was gonna land him some of us thought him to be generational too. Is he? Was/is Burrow? The great Mac Jones damn near matched him a year later. Is he? How many people called Tom Brady generational until he proved to be? How about Mahomes? Don't remember him being called generational when we played him. Underwood may very well be generational. Problem is we won't know for a generation. I only care if he wins games at LSU. Being generational is something that I couldn't care less about. Particularly when 5-10 high schoolers a year are described as such. It's nonsense


To support your point, are Nico Iamaleava and DJ Lagway generational talents? They were the #2 and #3 recruits in their respective classes. They show a lot of potential but they have hardly been game changers for their team - they are young players that need quality experience. Some of these guys never pan out, like Uiagalelei.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 1:00 am
Posted by Dead Mike
Cell Block 4
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:18 am to
quote:

Fair point, but Jimbo didn’t have a generational QB recruit in his class. A&M had a bunch of guys with an attitude. Do you get that vibe from Underwood, Pickett, Berry, Ross, etc?


Connor Weigman was the #22 overall recruit in his 2022 class - which may not be “generational” but is certainly regarded as an elite talent.
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
6403 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:29 am to
I haven't seen Lagway or Iamaleava's high school tape, but I have seen Underwood's. And when you see Underwood's tape, the first thing I think of is Leonard Fournette. Generational doesn't mean just 1 player fits the term generational talent.

I expect Underwood to be as good a QB as Fournette was a RB at LSU. And Fournette was the best RB LSU has ever had. Better than Faulk or anyone else. Billy Canon wouldn't average 4 yards per carry in today's game. Let's be honest. Fournette's raw strength, speed, and burst was much, much higher than Canon if Canon were playing in 2015.

He has all the measurables. Extreme height, shape, accuracy, deep ball, running ability, pocket movement, know when to run or pass.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 7:34 am
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
36392 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 10:38 am to
I mean, it won’t hurt bruh.
Posted by Horizon Imperial
Member since Sep 2019
300 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 11:13 am to
It certainly won’t hurt. I think we’re not going to be changing/improving the head coach within the foreseeable future but we can and should improve the talent.
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