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re: Is our D-line recruiting struggles because of Aranda?

Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by OU812
Greensboro, NC
Member since Apr 2004
12568 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:53 pm to
Chavis' lack of recruiting started it.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
20991 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:00 pm to
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We run the same 3-4 scheme that Bama does for the most part. Their DL make more plays because they’re more talented across the board and win the individual battles.


And have CRAZY depth allowing for talented players to rest up and come back in fresher.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9338 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:05 pm to
I think the problem starts with an O.
Posted by la champ1
Member since Oct 2012
1435 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 9:39 pm to
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Yall think that the DL recruiting problems are because of Aranda's system. He says that the NT and DE are there to absorb the blockers so that the linebackers can roam free to make plays. Do you think we are pitching this to these high schoolers while other schools are telling them that they could be stars and make plays themselves? I could see the logic as to why these top DL would decommit or commit to other schools over the past few years. I mean I love aranda's system but we might be missing on these elite big men because of that. But maybe its just Orgeron not getting lucky or delivering.


There is no system where they teach the d line to not beat blocks and get to the QB. Our guys were just not athletic if enough to do it on a consistent basis. If you look at the tape, it wasn’t for lack of effort. Not everyone can rush from DE at 310+ pounds. Needed to get a little lighter and quicker at those spots to make an impact. Bama runs 3-4 and there DEs are taller than ours and played at 285-290. Ours played 317 and 295-300. There NT played at 295. Our NT played 30-40 pounds heavier.
Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
4134 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:23 pm to
I’ve been thinking this was the case since year 2. Name a Wisconsin or LSU stud all world lineman under his tutelage. Compare that to CB, S, LB... it’s obvious that DL is not what shines in the Defense.
Posted by deepdeltatiger
Myrtle Grove
Member since Aug 2007
922 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:13 pm to
This year a couple of our guys could push for all American status.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26631 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 4:01 am to
No I don't know what our DL coach and Ed have been doing, but it's downright ridiculous that we don't have an abundance of high ranking DL talent that can get in the backfield. That has been a crutch of the LSU defense since 2013.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4338 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 8:50 am to
This has been the case for at least 5 years. And yes Aranda gets so,e of,the responsibility. Not b cause of,scheme or role of the players. But because of recruiting.
Posted by Guitarcheese
Lakesite, TN
Member since Jul 2015
1463 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 11:49 am to
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Aranda's D is challenging for all involved, you have to know your role and except it to work.


Just like every other fricking defense out there?

Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
6887 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:12 pm to
Rashard Lawrence says Hello.

Also, Ika could be a key contributor pretty soon.

Yes, LSU missed on some highly regarded DL in 2019, but the 2020 crop could be special.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:19 pm to
The problem is LSU hasn’t had a defensive linemen drafted in the first round since 2013, and he played linebacker in the NFL. LSU hasn’t had a defensive linemen drafted in the second round since 2014.

LSU is signing good, but not great defensive linemen. That was the case at the end of Miles’ tenure and it’s still the case now.
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Four Leaf Tayback
Member since Aug 2017
1621 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 2:24 pm to
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thought with the coach we have now running the program we'd be overflowing with DL talent. Not so much.



Absolutely.

Hiring a supposed DL guru and ace recruiter, you’d think DL would be one of the deepest and talented position group on the team.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66457 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 4:54 pm to
I thinj There is no coincidence that there is a direct correlation between our best players and our highest rated recruits.
Posted by dommanation
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2017
141 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:19 pm to
and 2018 and 2017
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 7:44 pm to
Yep. You figured it out. Let's fire his arse. Lol.
Posted by husslemane
Member since Oct 2014
1319 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:21 am to
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Yes, LSU missed on some highly regarded DL in 2019, but the 2020 crop could be special.


Simply change the numbers, and this has been said for how many years?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:28 pm to
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Yes, LSU missed on some highly regarded DL in 2019, but the 2020 crop could be special.




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Yes, LSU missed on some highly regarded DL in 2018, but the 2019 crop could be special.




This is exactly what was said last year. People just assumed Sopsher was in the bag.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 6:29 pm
Posted by baccsc
Texas
Member since Dec 2011
92 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 6:51 pm to
I do t think so, plus, with 12 NFL teams regularly using the 3-4, I would think more young men would want our defense to prepare for the NFL
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4933 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 7:00 pm to
That's basically what the 3-4 is about.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8880 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 8:14 pm to
You’re smarter than you look. it’s a team sport. Read your keys, do your job or it doesn’t work.

Simple as that.

Don’t understand all the down votes. Truth hurts I guess.
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