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re: Incoming Basketball Transfers

Posted on 4/12/25 at 8:59 am to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9755 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 8:59 am to
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but that's ok, the fact remains that the way it works its "quotes or it didn't happen", so you cant actually show what I was inconsistent about anything.

Incorrect.

One actual fact is quotes were posted. 2 of them, to be precise.

Another actual fact is you have failed to respond to either quote in any way, shape, or form for 4 posts now, despite a borderline novel’s worth of words in each of them.

The last actual fact is you are a bitch.

It is very amusing though, seeing you lose your mind and breaking character over these facts.
Posted by OldManHenry
Texas
Member since Jan 2024
289 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 10:22 am to
The new chairs on Titanic are not better than the old chairs on the Titanic.

Same captain
Same results

Mid majors can fill a hole but McLoser's philosophy on recruiting is based on thinking Ja Morants will explode on the scene with his coaching.

The Ship is sinking.. next year, we'll be in the bottom of SEC.. everyone with a brain knows this.
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
4612 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 10:51 am to
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Is there news about any other transfers for the Tigers?

Just a visit from an end of the bench freshman shooter from mich st., that’s about all I have seen
This post was edited on 4/12/25 at 10:54 am
Posted by LSUTiger1981
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Feb 2022
110 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:52 pm to
obivously you don't have a brain. Tell that to UK, UF, AU, UConn, UNC, Duke shall I go on retard because I easily can?
Posted by OldManHenry
Texas
Member since Jan 2024
289 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:44 am to
U think we're on par with those schools?
Retard Alert .. retard alert

14-40 in SEC, we suck hairy balls...our coach sucks hairy balls
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1360 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:53 am to
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The last actual fact is you are a bitch.

It is very amusing though, seeing you lose your mind and breaking character over these facts.


"losing your mind" and "breaking your character"

I'm no doctor, but this is a prime case of anosognosia. What a weird thing to project on a message board.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32022 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 10:45 am to
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Mid majors can fill a hole but McLoser's philosophy on recruiting is based on thinking Ja Morants will explode on the scene with his coaching.


Morant's name gets thrown around a lot. But if we are going to have a reasonable discussion it does have to be acknowledged that McMahon had success after Morant left, including his best season at Murray State without Morant on the team.

As to mid-major transfers, a good coach/program can absolutely win big with them. Look no further than Florida with guys like Clayton (Iona), Richard (Belmont), Handlotgen (Marshall), Martin (FAU). As to recruiting philosophy, McMahon has actually signed significantly more 4 star (top 100is) recruits than Florida over the last 3 years. Yet, 3 years into the HC tenures of McMahon and Golden one program is the National Champion. The other has been, cumulatively, the worst program in the SEC over that time.

That's why I continue to say the recruiting/player aquisition on an individual basis relative to other SEC teams hasn't been bad. It's the coaching, ability to adapt to changing rosters, etc that has been the problem. IMO, McMahon's plan was to take the same approach he had at Murray St and use it at LSU, only with a better pool of players. That is sign the best guys you can out of HS and develop them together in your program over the course of multiple years to where when they are 3rd, 4th, 5th year players you have a veteran, experienced team. Unfortunately, that is not the world college basketball exists in today. Going into year 4 LSU only has ONE player (Reed) left from the first two HS signing classes (6 total players). Last season was McMahon's highest rated HS signing class. Two of those players are already gone.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
11647 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:05 am to
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As to mid-major transfers, a good coach/program can absolutely win big with them. Look no further than Florida with guys like Clayton (Iona), Richard (Belmont), Handlotgen (Marshall), Martin (FAU)


So if Clayton had blown his knee out in the fifth game of the season and Richard had left the team to deal with emotional issue do you think Florida is cutting down the nets last week.

When McMahon was hired the portal and NIL were not the wild wild scene we have today. It was understood he would recruit ethically and develop players . The scene changed and injuries gutted teh program. He has changed his approach and has funding for the portal players now. Lets see how it works out.

One other thing you left out. mike Miller left golden with a core of decent players. McMahon walked into 13 empty lockers.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32022 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:41 am to
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McMahon walked into 13 empty lockers.


And the same tenants of 3 of those lockers ultimately remained. Coincidentally, he will only have 3 returning players this year as well. So have we already circled back to recycling excuses? Or is this one now off the table?

Perhaps you meant Vanderbilt's HC this year who did actually walk into 13 empty lockers and had to fill them with 13 new players. Despite this monumental and unfathomable task, he managed to take a program that went 9-23 the year prior and go 20-13 en route to the NCAA Tournament. Then again, I guess he didn't have the best shooter since Steph Curry quit before the season and a first ballot Naismith HOFer go down with injury.

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When McMahon was hired the portal and NIL were not the wild wild scene we have today.


Nearly 1,700 D-1 players entered the portal in McMahon's first offseason

quote:

It was understood he would recruit ethically


What does this mean? It was understood he wouldn't offer players money to sign...when EVERYONE else was doing just that because it was "legal"?


Matt McMahon SEC wins - 14
Matt McMahon excuses why he only has 14 SEC wins - 25
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
2661 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 11:50 am to
None of what you stated addresses the fact that Mcmahon lost 2 of his best and most important players and had to depend on 4 freshmen and a Jr who had hardly played in 3 years.. And when Mcmahon got here NIL had just started to become a reality and LSU was in no position to compete. Not even last year. This is the first season he has been given the money to compete and yes he will need to rebuild with 3 returning players. There are no more excuses after this year. He either produces or he's gone.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9755 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:53 pm to
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"losing your mind" and "breaking your character"

You just put 2 things in quotes that were not what was said. How stupid are you?

quote:

I'm no doctor, but this is a prime case of anosognosia. What a weird thing to project on a message board.

What’s it called when someone on a message board talks about Matt McMahon running the Villanova offense?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9755 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 3:54 pm to
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None of what you stated addresses the fact that Mcmahon lost 2 of his best and most important players and had to depend on 4 freshmen and a Jr who had hardly played in 3 years.. And when Mcmahon got here NIL had just started to become a reality and LSU was in no position to compete. Not even last year. This is the first season he has been given the money to compete and yes he will need to rebuild with 3 returning players. There are no more excuses after this year. He either produces or he's gone.

Daily double from mediocre mcpuffs
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1360 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 4:31 pm to
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You just put 2 things in quotes that were not what was said. How stupid are you?



Oh yes, because it wasn't an exact quote, the point is null and void. Try to come up with something else, I've tried to have the X and O's conversation with you only to get the question flipped back on me.
Posted by LINOESC
Member since Jan 2025
384 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 4:32 pm to
It is truly amazing the excuses they’ll make for this clown. After they finish in the bottom 3-4 of the league again next year Fat Woody is gonna be forced to move on from McDummy !!
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 4:33 pm
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3864 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 5:17 pm to
So you're comparing Clayton to Reed and Richard to Ward????

The bottom line is that this SOB has shown ZERO signs of life in turning this program around.

Also, you can "recruit ethically" or you can win. But you can't do both.

I seriously hope that you don't believe under the table illegal payments have disappeared just because NIL is a thing now. If anything, it's worse than ever. The reason for that is that every major school but LSU seems to realize that the NCAA ain't got the ole radar gun out on the highways now, and they're all FLYING down the road. We better be also.
Posted by LsuSaintsCub57
Member since Mar 2025
76 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:05 pm to
It really is insane!! Unless your family or friends I just don't understand how you can think he gonna be successful. He is outcoached every single game and some games he looks lost. I'm being dead serious I don't think Mc is top 150 coach
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9755 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:20 pm to
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Oh yes, because it wasn't an exact quote,

You not being intelligent enough to understand how quotes work is no one else’s fault.

quote:

the point is null and void.

The point was an abject failure at mockery, compounded by you not being intelligent enough to understand how quotes work.

And it was addressed. You somehow forgot to include that part in your response.

quote:

Try to come up with something else

Actually I think I’ll just keep pointing out how the guy that’s not intelligent enough to understand how quotes work also thinks Matt McMahon runs the Villanova offense.

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I've tried to have the X and O's conversation with you only to get the question flipped back on me.

You mean like the time you failed at downplaying wright’s early tenure at Villanova to attempt to make McMahon look good, and then suddenly forgot where the reply button was located when I pointed out that wright won more games in his first 2 years at Villanova than McMahon was going to in his first 3? And how anyone that attempts to equate success between McMahon and wright simply cannot know what they’re talking about? That was fun.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1360 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:38 am to
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The point was an abject failure at mockery, compounded by you not being intelligent enough to understand how quotes work.

And it was addressed. You somehow forgot to include that part in your response.



This is what's crazy, what career field are you in? For someone that loves to insult someone's intelligence, you must be a Rhodes Scholar. Enlighten me on your supreme intellect.




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You mean like the time you failed at downplaying wright’s early tenure at Villanova to attempt to make McMahon look good, and then suddenly forgot where the reply button was located when I pointed out that wright won more games in his first 2 years at Villanova than McMahon was going to in his first 3? And how anyone that attempts to equate success between McMahon and wright simply cannot know what they’re talking about? That was fun.


I said that the philosophies are similar and you spun that into me saying that McMahon was going to be Jay Wright. It's all good though man, you can't seem to find any other topic to talk about. That's not X's and O's at all, I'm talking about your personal opinion on what offense/defense he should be running, principles etc. I'm still waiting on what adjustments you think the coaching staff should make to the offense and the defense. You love to criticize others opinions, but have yet to share your own. You won't do that though.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32022 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:57 am to
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Also, you can "recruit ethically" or you can win. But you can't do both.


Yeah, I'm not quite sure what "recruit ethically" means in that context. Wade was accused of offering improper benefits to recruits (i.e. money), which was ultimately the basis of his firing. But even when McMahon took the job, offering players money (in the form of NIL deals) was not illegal or unethical in broad sense. Frankly, it was mandatory.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3864 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:18 am to
It's not just what you explained in your post.

I can't imagine anyone would be naive enough to believe that the "hidden cash" payments have just disappeared since NIL has taken over.

But then again, I'm positive based on some of the things I read on here that a certain percentage of posters truly believe that Wooden, coach K and a few others were actually doing things the "right way".

It's just beyond laughable that grown adults don't grasp how things work in reality. I don't think it's that hard to determine a person's motivation in regard to how they operate, especially highly competitive, successful college football and basketball coaches.
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