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If you bring in a big-time QB from portal...
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:31 pm
You're probably gonna need two from the portal. Nuss ain't staying if he gets beat out, nor should he. I'm in the "best QB plays" corner. Nuss doesn't get to just "inherit" the job. I think it's a bit of a difficult strategy to bring in someone who is "just good enough" to be a back-up without being a threat to Nuss'es coronation.
The other option is to just roll the dice with current QB room with an eye towards potentially having Underwood start as a true Freshman. Dangerous proposition but may be worth it to get a guy like Underwood into the program.
The other option is to just roll the dice with current QB room with an eye towards potentially having Underwood start as a true Freshman. Dangerous proposition but may be worth it to get a guy like Underwood into the program.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:37 pm to GarTiger
Bring in the best QB you can find.
Nuss’s feelings are not a primary objective for this program.
Nuss’s feelings are not a primary objective for this program.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:39 pm to GarTiger
The immediate panic of thinking Nuss is just some scrub is wild. Why is everyone so convinced this guy can't play all of a sudden?
If Nuss had the same amount of film but was in the portal at another school this board would be salivating to get him.
If Nuss had the same amount of film but was in the portal at another school this board would be salivating to get him.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:42 pm to GarTiger
I agree. Focus should be entirely on the defensive side of the football. If you want a QB, cool, we can look around, but for the love of God get some DBs and DLs.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:42 pm to GarTiger
If Nuss ain’t the man then he ain’t the man
He hasn’t earned the right to not have to compete for the starting job
He hasn’t earned the right to not have to compete for the starting job
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:44 pm to OJsLifeCoach
I like Nuss. I think he has a chance to be really good. I also know that there seems to be a strong preference towards a DT QB in Denbrock's system. I'm fine with it being Nuss but not at all convinced you can thread the needle with an experienced transfer back-up. I think we either go big for a DT like Murphy or just roll with Nuss/Collins until hopefully Underwood shows up. Maybe Hurley will develop as well. At one point, he was the "Bryce Underwood" of his class.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:46 pm to GarTiger
Murphy is not at all a dual threat. He didn’t run for any yards at Texas and only ran for 84 yards his entire senior year of HS.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:50 pm to Wrucker16
Thanks for clarifying...I retract Murphy from the point about DT's. I think Denbrock can adjust to a pro-style guy's strengths but his offenses have always been best with DT guys at QB.
Full disclosure...JD spoiled the crap out of me with them legs!
Full disclosure...JD spoiled the crap out of me with them legs!

Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:54 pm to nitwit
His feelings are definitely not the priority. However it takes me back to the purpose of the OP. If he gets beat out and leaves after spring, we are in the same boat in terms of back up. I would certainly question Nuss'es desire to play the game if he got beat out and didn't leave. Seems like quite the conundrum but I bet Kelly and Co. get it worked out! Maybe Rickie Collins will flash in the off-season...who knows
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:10 pm to nitwit
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Bring in the best QB you can find. Nuss’s feelings are not a primary objective for this program.
Whoever said they were? Kelly? You’re making that assumption because we have not been on some of the bigger names. We probably have reached out to some. Fact of the matter is most bigger name QBs transferring want an unimpeded path to starting. Many don’t view LSU in that light. Am I saying Nuss can’t be beaten out? Absolutely not. But it won’t be easy and many don’t want to take that chance. There next move could likely be their last shot.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:13 pm to nitwit
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Bring in the best QB you can find.
Nuss’s feelings are not a primary objective for this program.
I think mostly everyone agrees with this, but the management of rosters, especially the QB position group is more complicated than that.
Everyone is for competition and “frick their feelings” but bringing in a true potential starter requires at least a substantial chance they would be the starter - if not an outright promise.
Hopefully LSU isn’t willing to do that, but that will knock many candidates off the list.
Who in the portal currently is a guaranteed better player than Nuss NEXT season?
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:32 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
That's where this gets tricky. If Nuss would've transferred, the courtship of the best portal QB should/would be underway. Now you have to weigh potentially losing Nuss, who has huge upside, for a guy that hasn't been in the system.
For me personally though, I have become addicted to DT Qb's. Look at Milroe. He doesn't have near the throwing skills that Nuss has, although he does have good arm strength. His run skill is what sets the whole thing up and makes him far more dangerous.
I wish we could stick Collins' legs on Nuss!
For me personally though, I have become addicted to DT Qb's. Look at Milroe. He doesn't have near the throwing skills that Nuss has, although he does have good arm strength. His run skill is what sets the whole thing up and makes him far more dangerous.
I wish we could stick Collins' legs on Nuss!

Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:32 am to GarTiger
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other option is to just roll the dice with current QB room with an eye towards potentially having Underwood start as a true Freshman. Dangerous proposition but may be worth it to get a guy like Underwood into the program.
You guys are such clowns. Nuss hasn't done enough to "inherit" the job and be "coronated" which is a childish attempt to beg for a transfer to replace him. He's not being handed anything. Yet in the same comment you're ok with coronating a true freshman. Underwood will not start as a freshman regardless of any scenario involved here.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:55 am to GarTiger
All I will say is that if Nuss was in the portal, he'd be #! QB for certain. With that said, I truly believe Nuss will light it up next year and make us proud.
Now, only the coaching staff has a solid "read" on Collins in case of injuries. So, what they end up doing in the portal is telling...
Now, only the coaching staff has a solid "read" on Collins in case of injuries. So, what they end up doing in the portal is telling...
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:07 am to GarTiger
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JD spoiled the crap out of me with them legs
Nobody is going to mistake Nuss for JD when it comes to running but it's not like he is a statue like Mett was. In the limited action he's seen he has shown to be able to scramble pretty well.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:18 am to OJsLifeCoach
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The immediate panic of thinking Nuss is just some scrub is wild. Why is everyone so convinced this guy can't play all of a sudden? If Nuss had the same amount of film but was in the portal at another school this board would be salivating to get him.
Nuss has more experience than Joe Burrow had coming from tOSU… not saying that proves anything. I thought the Nuss highlight video that got posted recently was very encouraging.
The amusing thing is posters on here were worried about Nuss’ Ints and were clamoring for a guy in the portal last week that threw 17 picks this year…LOL
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:22 am to mpwilging
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Now, only the coaching staff has a solid "read" on Collins in case of injuries. So, what they end up doing in the portal is telling...
A lot of people dont have confidence in Collins and rightfully so due to no film on him. However, his playing style is much like JDs and has a lot of upside potential. We should see a big jump on improvement by Spring Game
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:26 am to OJsLifeCoach
The same ones in panic mode were the same advocates a few weeks ago calling for daniels to be benched while they drove the NussBus. But, this is the typical cycle for tRant & QBs-
When the player is the backup QB, the general consensus here is that (1) he’s better than our starting QB but coaches can’t grasp it & (2) our team will be dramatically better if/when the backup takes over.
When that same player becomes the presumable starter, the new consensus is (1) he sucks; (2) offensive production about to decline; and (3) the backup QB needs to be starter (see the above).
Rinse, wash, repeat.
When the player is the backup QB, the general consensus here is that (1) he’s better than our starting QB but coaches can’t grasp it & (2) our team will be dramatically better if/when the backup takes over.
When that same player becomes the presumable starter, the new consensus is (1) he sucks; (2) offensive production about to decline; and (3) the backup QB needs to be starter (see the above).
Rinse, wash, repeat.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:58 am to GarTiger
Nuss has 2 years left. In three years, we'll have Collins, a RS-JR, Hurley, a RS-SO, and Underwood, a RS-FR, if everyone sticks around. At that point, Hurley or Underwood will start for at least 2 years, and Collins will be gone. I understand the need for depth, which is a separate issue. But we do not need to take a transfer QB for the time period after Nuss is gone. That's the whole point of getting Underwood (which is, admittedly, not a done deal). I would not call this "rolling the dice."
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