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re: Huge Surprise- Bamas having trouble with Ish Sospher weight / work ethic

Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by ConeHawk
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:19 pm to
Find me a mock draft where he doesn't go round 1.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:21 pm to
Mock drafts are never wrong, especially a year ahead of time.
Posted by WITCH DOCTOR
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:23 pm to
I bet you $500 Dylan Moses does not go 1st round, you up for it?
Posted by WITCH DOCTOR
Louisiana
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3474 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:27 pm to
You wanna bet $500 lester? I am up for it...
Posted by 187undercover
Member since May 2019
1538 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:34 pm to
During his recruitment, not one time did I bash the kid for what I saw as obvious flaws. I also never hyped him up because he was home grown.

Now that the signs are becoming apparent at Bama it is free game.

His highlight reel was even lacking. Fundamentals down to his conditioning were poor; His talent level was obvious.

He can still salvage his career and I hope he does personally. I want Louisiana boys to succeed no matter what. If he truly commits to conditioning and focused on fundamentally becoming a great player he still is an NFL talent.
Posted by ConeHawk
Member since Dec 2018
1961 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:41 pm to
Yes.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278144 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:06 pm to
I’ll bet you $100
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 2:09 pm to
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I’ll bet you $100




Everyone in here shitting on Moses like he sucks

He grades out as a first rounder. Funny that those projections are worthless to some, who then tout Delpit, Fulton, and Chaisson as first rounders because of the same projections.

And to suggest that Moses is getting all-American pub just because the media wants to be right about their HS assessments is asinine. Moses dropped in the rankings his senior year. He got to Bama as a highly regarded prospect but no where near a generational prospect level. As a prospect, there are probably 100 other current CFB players who were regarded in the same light as he was as a senior. Sure he had more hype in middle school but I don’t think the media cares about what they said about him 5 years ago

I was upset he chose Bama, as you all are. It sucked and still does suck, he’s a good player.
Posted by ConeHawk
Member since Dec 2018
1961 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 2:22 pm to
Finally someone with reason! Well said.
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 2:55 pm to
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Find me a mock draft where he doesn't go round 1.



Its a mock draft. A full year before the draft. how old are you?
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 2:56 pm to
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he’s a good player.
He’s a pile tapper, but “always around the ball” is how it’s described. Not very physical but has good measurables. He’ll test really well because his reputation was built on combine numbers. Mike Mamula comes to mind.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12852 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 3:18 pm to
I really hope Ish has an awful career at Bama.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 3:28 pm to
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His highlight reel was even lacking. Fundamentals down to his conditioning were poor; His talent level was obvious.

He can still salvage his career and I hope he does personally.


I hope the light comes on also, but the signs are there that he is just used to getting by on talent alone
Posted by ConeHawk
Member since Dec 2018
1961 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 4:06 pm to
I'm not saying it's a guarantee, but everyone here acts like Moses SUCKS. In reality he is an elite talent that is widely expected to go round 1. I trust reputable analysts over uneducated fools on this website.
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 4:10 pm to
Well, it's panning out exactly like I expected. I watched a lot of film on him and he just seemed lazy and was not going 100 percent every play. I know it's early, but when you're at that level, it doesn't take long to figure out who is the real deal and who are frauds.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 4:13 pm to
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I'm not saying it's a guarantee, but everyone here acts like Moses SUCKS. In reality he is an elite talent that is widely expected to go round 1. I trust reputable analysts over uneducated fools on this website.



Anyone who says he "sucks" is delusional. With that said, his production did not match his hype. In fact many Bama fans feel this year linebackers are their weak link, some of it is depth, some is lack of production.

If he plays similar this year to last, I would not bet on first round selection. His combine showing will boost him however.
Posted by 251Tiger
Member since Aug 2018
536 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 4:26 pm to
I will
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7137 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 4:57 pm to
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I think what pisses many of us about sopsher is that saban knew as well as we did about sopsher's work ethic, and he wanted him just for the optics.


What if O did the same thing to Saban?
Posted by RuddyP89
Member since Jul 2019
146 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 5:36 pm to
What's crazy is that 247 had Ika at 372 in his senior yr and had Ish in the 340's. Now LSU has Ika in the 340's. Would think that Ish would've been more conditioned at this point had he stuck with us. Also.. hasn't Kardell lost a significant amount of weight as well? Smh
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6059 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 5:53 pm to
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They draft on talent, character, and tape


Moses looks like a great talent... in shorts. Put on pads, looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

The tape? Well, it will show the greatest second or third man to the tackle, pile jumper in college football. Reminds me of a way more athletic DJ Welter (no offense DJ).
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