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How Much Difference Between 4 star and 5 Star Recruits

Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:32 pm
Posted by KCSunshine
Midland Texas
Member since Dec 2019
415 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:32 pm
Past 5 Star Tigers. Remember Malachi Dupre and Trey Quinn. Both 5 star “ can’t miss” guys. I’ll take 16 4 ** over a couple of 5’s
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162209 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:34 pm to
Cherry picking a couple of 5 star guys that didn't live up to the hype is silly
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:34 pm to
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Malachi Dupre and Trey Quinn


Came to LSU to learn how to run block in an Les Miles offense
Posted by LSU4lyfe
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2003
7803 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:39 pm to
1 star
Posted by TexTgrTed
Parker County, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
5813 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:39 pm to
Reality is classes can’t be predominantly 5-star players. The recruiting services don’t rate that many kids that high every year.

So, a mix of 4 & 3-star kids, with more 4 than 3, properly evaluated by the staff, can do just fine.
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1621 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:40 pm to
A little more pride and mouth ??

Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17874 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

Reality is classes can’t be predominantly 5-star players. The recruiting services don’t rate that many kids that high every year.

So, a mix of 4 & 3-star kids, with more 4 than 3, properly evaluated by the staff, can do just fine.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down on the logic there, buddy. It's of no use here.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40460 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:45 pm to
I don’t think Trey Quinn was a 5 star anywhere
Posted by Nyctigah
New York
Member since Oct 2023
166 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:49 pm to
LINK

On3 has this cool draft by stars page check it out
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:00 pm to
The difference between a high 4 star and a 5 star is really almost nothing. You have to remember that this just measures potential, not work ethic, injury proneness, maturity etc.

My little brother would have probably been a 4/5 star today as Steve Largent told him that personally at a camp. He didn’t play much more in college than I did. I would have been a 2/3 star at best.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8613 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:02 pm to
He wasnt
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
1320 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:11 pm to
Recruiting websites overall are a big scam to a certain degree. Those services want to sell subscriptions, so naturally when a certain program has a lot of subscribers, those recruits are going to get a bump in stars once they commit because it keeps the subscribers happy.

Now with the transfer portal and NIL, those services are having to revamp how they do business because a large portion of recruits jump ship after one year or two. As far as accuracy, it's about 50-50. They hit on some and miss on just as many, but you never hear about those because that's not good for business.

The reality is if you have a top 10 recruiting class, you've done very well based on recruiting websites, but you really won't know the real value of a recruiting class until 3 or 4 years down the road because a large portion of those recruits will be on another team's roster.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30130 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

Malachi Dupre and Trey Quinn. Both 5 star


Quinn was not a 5* and plenty of people were not sure how he would do because of his size.

quote:

I’ll take 16 4 ** over a couple of 5’s


Sure I'll take 16 3*s over 1 5* But I'd rather have 14 4*s and a couple of 5*s than 16 4*s. You can find more 4 *s who didn't pan out for LSU than 5*s who didn't. Heck, probably more 4*s who didn't pan out than 5*s who committed here ever.

Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8731 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:21 pm to
That is actually impressive how successful they are rating 5 stars
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1048 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:26 pm to
Cool stats, thanks for posting.

I wonder if that fifth star affects the odds of being drafted. I mean from a psychological or expectation perspective, rather than the actual college production.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19816 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:28 pm to
Zero difference. You must develop the talent
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131328 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:30 pm to
Trey Quinn never sniffed a 5th star.

You can you John Emery as an example though. Or Keiland Williams.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47525 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

wonder if that fifth star affects the odds of being drafted. I mean from a psychological or expectation perspective, rather than the actual college production.


I mean it gets you more chances to get on the field…
Posted by Nyctigah
New York
Member since Oct 2023
166 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:47 pm to
I think what owl said is true to a certain extent. 5 stars get more chances, 2nd and 3rd chances than a 3 star would. Some guys just develop late
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3516 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:01 pm to
I look at stars more as a metric for probability of success more than a direct comparative analysis. Additionally the higher rated kids generally have better physical attributes for football.
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