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re: Help me understand why NIL recruitment inducements aren’t bribery

Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8655 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 3:15 pm to
Do you think when a FA picks one team over another based on money that he has been bribed?

Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
1385 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 4:34 pm to
It is bribery or pay for play, whichever you want to call it, but apparently it's legal in college football and money is being thrown around like Mardi Gras moonpies!
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
2361 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:20 pm to
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I don’t work for a collective. GASP! Am I being bribed to do work??!


You don’t have one company pay you to work for someone else.
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
2361 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 5:21 pm to
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Do you think when a FA picks one team over another based on money that he has been bribed


He is an employee there and being paid as such. With Collectives they are not employees of them.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8655 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 6:29 pm to
Employment doesn’t matter. It’s not bribery to be paid for a service.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59128 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:44 pm to
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He is an employee there and being paid as such. With Collectives they are not employees of them.


Why are you hung up on the “employee” thing.

A paid spokesman is not a “employee”. If you listen to a sports talk show or a podcast and they read an add they are not “employees” of that company.

NIL stands for name image and likeness. The collectives pool money from some boosters to ultimately pay the players for their NIL, in effect it may be a “pay for play” but there is something else involved. The player is a spokesman for a certain company or they appear at a business location promote a product on social media etc.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 7:58 pm
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5066 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:05 pm to
Haven't read through the thread, but...

Bribery is offering gifts, money, etc, to a person in power to influence their decisions or actions. The recruits aren't in a position of power, and you're simply offering them a,"salary" much like you would to a prospective employee.

You made the point several times that the recruit is not an employee (for whatever reason), but a person going on an interview is not an employee, either. Both are being offered money as an influence to join your organization,. That's not bribery.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
959 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:12 pm to
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You don’t have one company pay you to work for someone else.


This happens all the time.

Temp agencies send temp workers to work for other companies. The worker’s checks come from the temp agency.

People also work for subsidiaries of companies but are paid by the “parent company”.
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
3360 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:19 pm to
You ever got offered a job while working somewhere else? Call the cops and say the new company is bribing you
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9501 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 9:42 pm to
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Still not the same thing. These guys aren’t employees. That’s what I’m saying. It’s crazy they aren’t employees and held to same standard but can be induced by people other than who they are “working” for.

You’re grasping at straws because you don’t like the state of NIL. I get it, most people don’t like it. The bribery comparison still falls flat and doesn’t make any sense.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10449 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:42 am to
They amount to bribery, inducement. No other way to see it. Claiming the schools are not involved is a real hoot!
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5371 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 1:41 am to
If none of this is bribery, and a collective can send money to a player and his family based on a promise to attend a school…..


Then how the hell did Christian Dawkins go to jail?

How can a collective pay a kid on the promise to go to that school , but it’s illegal for Adidas or their front man to do the same damn thing?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42947 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:40 am to
No different than what Will Wade did just all out in the open so everyone can feel better
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 7:41 am
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