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Future of the LSU Offensive Line
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:34 am
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:34 am
I must say it was painful at times to watch the way our O-line performed last year. I am optimistic that we will be improved this year, but when looking at our recent recruiting classes I am very excited at what we could potentially have in 3 years or so. There are 3 players that are the reason for that excitement.
Chris Faulk
Evan Washington
La'El Collins
Those are 3 athletic big men that could dominate together. Obviously one will have to play guard if they start together down the road. Washington might be the one since he is already practicing there.
As extensions to the line I really like our 2 freshman TEs:
Nic Jacobs
Travis Dickson
Jacobs is huge at 6'5 265, and looks like he could turn himself into a tackle if he wanted to. If not, I see him being a dominate blocking TE if he keeps his intensity up. Dickson looks like a nasty blocker on his high school film. I think he'll be a good one whether he ends up at fullback or TE.
I do wish Elliot Porter was a part of this equation. I mean, lets forget about the morality of the decision by Miles for a second. How about just strategically? With all of the attrition we have had over the past few years, do we really want to take a chance on losing another OL? I just would have preferred them ask Wing to take the greyshirt. Rivals only has film of him playing defense in high school, but he looked big, powerful, fairly quick and aggressive. Bulk that sucker up to 300 and seems like he would make a nice OG. As it is, it looks like behemoths Josh Williford and Trai Turner are the most likely candidates to hold down the guard position in the future.
So does anyone else share my excitement about the future of the OL? Who are the guards and center? Do you think Jacobs stays at TE or transforms himself into a tackle?
And it also looks like we are the early favorite for stud 2012 prospect Vadal Alexander 6'5 320!
Chris Faulk
Evan Washington
La'El Collins
Those are 3 athletic big men that could dominate together. Obviously one will have to play guard if they start together down the road. Washington might be the one since he is already practicing there.
As extensions to the line I really like our 2 freshman TEs:
Nic Jacobs
Travis Dickson
Jacobs is huge at 6'5 265, and looks like he could turn himself into a tackle if he wanted to. If not, I see him being a dominate blocking TE if he keeps his intensity up. Dickson looks like a nasty blocker on his high school film. I think he'll be a good one whether he ends up at fullback or TE.
I do wish Elliot Porter was a part of this equation. I mean, lets forget about the morality of the decision by Miles for a second. How about just strategically? With all of the attrition we have had over the past few years, do we really want to take a chance on losing another OL? I just would have preferred them ask Wing to take the greyshirt. Rivals only has film of him playing defense in high school, but he looked big, powerful, fairly quick and aggressive. Bulk that sucker up to 300 and seems like he would make a nice OG. As it is, it looks like behemoths Josh Williford and Trai Turner are the most likely candidates to hold down the guard position in the future.
So does anyone else share my excitement about the future of the OL? Who are the guards and center? Do you think Jacobs stays at TE or transforms himself into a tackle?
And it also looks like we are the early favorite for stud 2012 prospect Vadal Alexander 6'5 320!
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Posted on 8/15/10 at 8:38 am to inadaze
Don't exactly know how to assess this analysis, but everything said here seems logical. I am a typical fan. Translate that to means that I probably don't know as much as I think I do.
The Elliot Porter thing will be another reason for people to vilify Miles; however, from what I have read, he did play it by the book. Maybe the book needs to be re-edited, though.
Having Wing take the shirt might have made more sense, but I am not the coach. From all that I know and have observed about football over the years, I wuld have to say that as the lines play on both sides of the ball, so goes the team. Getting protection and getting a fiercesome rush helps us to move the ball while forcing turnovers and hurries on the other side of the ball.
It does concern me that "attrition" has taken its toll on the line. Every time the ball is snapped, it's like a controlled car accident. The liklihood of injury is always present, but line play seems to put someone in greater jeopardy. Just my opinion, and I am certainly open to one of the resident football wizards on the board to correct me. It seems to me that me that we need every warm body we can get our hands on, and they need to be on the practice field early to learn the game and appreciate the speed of play.
AS an aside about Porter and the "grey shirt" thing, he is a young man, a very young man, and I wish him the best. I would have reacted differently, though. I love LSU, and I would have killed to run through the tunnel out of the north endzone. I would have loved to tell my grandchildren that I played on "that very field." I wished he would have stayed, but when you are young and full of desire, you want to play.
When Miles said some things about learning the game, bulking up, and developing physically, I believe those are good arguments. Unlike the idiot (Doyel) who wrote that he essentially sits to the right of the devil in hell, I don't think he did anything unusual or illegal. It is a SEC practice, a bad one, but still within the confines of the rules. This practice has to stop, however. If my kid had been on campus and then found out that he would have to pay his own way for a semester and sit out, I would have been pissed. But if you really want to be a Tiger, you stay, accept the occasional unfairness of life, and become a better person for the adversity. From what I see of Miles' public personna and comments that others have made about him, I do believe he would have helped the kid and rewarded him down the line. Am I a positiger viewing the coach through rose colored glasses? To some degree, yes, but realistically it is his decision that he will eventually have to account for. For the TEAM'S sake, I hope the first post proves to be correct.
OK, LAY INTO ME!!!
The Elliot Porter thing will be another reason for people to vilify Miles; however, from what I have read, he did play it by the book. Maybe the book needs to be re-edited, though.
Having Wing take the shirt might have made more sense, but I am not the coach. From all that I know and have observed about football over the years, I wuld have to say that as the lines play on both sides of the ball, so goes the team. Getting protection and getting a fiercesome rush helps us to move the ball while forcing turnovers and hurries on the other side of the ball.
It does concern me that "attrition" has taken its toll on the line. Every time the ball is snapped, it's like a controlled car accident. The liklihood of injury is always present, but line play seems to put someone in greater jeopardy. Just my opinion, and I am certainly open to one of the resident football wizards on the board to correct me. It seems to me that me that we need every warm body we can get our hands on, and they need to be on the practice field early to learn the game and appreciate the speed of play.
AS an aside about Porter and the "grey shirt" thing, he is a young man, a very young man, and I wish him the best. I would have reacted differently, though. I love LSU, and I would have killed to run through the tunnel out of the north endzone. I would have loved to tell my grandchildren that I played on "that very field." I wished he would have stayed, but when you are young and full of desire, you want to play.
When Miles said some things about learning the game, bulking up, and developing physically, I believe those are good arguments. Unlike the idiot (Doyel) who wrote that he essentially sits to the right of the devil in hell, I don't think he did anything unusual or illegal. It is a SEC practice, a bad one, but still within the confines of the rules. This practice has to stop, however. If my kid had been on campus and then found out that he would have to pay his own way for a semester and sit out, I would have been pissed. But if you really want to be a Tiger, you stay, accept the occasional unfairness of life, and become a better person for the adversity. From what I see of Miles' public personna and comments that others have made about him, I do believe he would have helped the kid and rewarded him down the line. Am I a positiger viewing the coach through rose colored glasses? To some degree, yes, but realistically it is his decision that he will eventually have to account for. For the TEAM'S sake, I hope the first post proves to be correct.
OK, LAY INTO ME!!!
Posted on 8/15/10 at 8:40 am to jcb236
Shouldn't this post be on the rant?
Posted on 8/15/10 at 8:54 am to Dead Fish
If the scrimmage yesterday says anything, Keeping Wing may have been a great decision. The Porter decision may have made sense with Porters knee injury,giving him more time to recover. What happened to the threads on Porter to commit to Oregon,or he's committing to A&M?? Why are they passing on him??? To me, who didn't like this on face value, Its looking like the right decision.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 9:18 am to jcb236
Thanks for the well thought and written post. It was very refreshing. I too hope Porter takes the Gray Shirt like Rocky Duplesis did!
Posted on 8/15/10 at 10:03 am to jcb236
quote:
I am a typical fan. Translate that to means that I probably don't know as much as I think I do.
A rare flash of clear-headed thinking on the rant!
Posted on 8/15/10 at 10:14 am to inadaze
Good post, don't forget about Greg Robinson. Not over there yet by any means. A solid year for the team could still bring him in the fold and he looks like an absolute beast.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 10:18 am to inadaze
Couple questions... How many TE's do we have on the roster that will remain pure TE's throughout their 4 years here? Reason I ask is, with his size(and ability to add some weight) and agility(from playing TE throughout the years), do you guys think Nic Jacobs could be moved to C? From playing TE, and having to run routes and find holes in a defense, he should already be pretty knowledgable on reading a defense and seeing a blitz. Playing TE for a year, then adding the weight next summer and making the switch should make the transition smooth. Just a thought.... Opinions???
Posted on 8/15/10 at 12:26 pm to inadaze
quote:
do wish Elliot Porter was a part of this equation.
Why are you so sure of this? I've spoken with people who are close to Shaw athletics and wonder how he received an offer in the first place.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:33 pm to TJG210
The OL numbers were going to have to be trimmed later anyway. Given how Porter chose to handle the situation, I have no problem wit him not being around.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 3:37 pm to Dead Fish
quote:
Shouldn't this post be on the rant?
No! This is chock full of rational thinking. Keep it here.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 3:37 pm to AlxTgr
I think Corey White and Trai Turner are going to be solid players as well. You add those to Faulk,Washington, Collins and hopefully Robinson, and you have a very nice group of players there.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 3:46 pm to Geaux4LSU88
The OL will be the single strongest area for LSU in the near future. I have no doubts about it.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 3:55 pm to lynxcat
lynx, have you started smoking already today? several areas of the team will remain stronger than the ol including the dl, rb, wr,
Posted on 8/15/10 at 3:56 pm to lynxcat
Nic Jacobs is a beast of a TE. If he stays there.
I could see him going to LT in the future however.
I could see him going to LT in the future however.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 5:05 pm to lynxcat
quote:
The OL will be the single strongest area for LSU in the near future.
Agreed. Especially with the way the last class and the current one are shaping up.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 5:07 pm to 1p56
quote:
Nic Jacobs is a beast of a TE. If he stays there.
Yeah, I hope he sticks at that position. Could be off the chain if he has hands to go with that size.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 6:35 pm to Larry Hollins
quote:
lynx, have you started smoking already today? several areas of the team will remain stronger than the ol including the dl, rb, wr,
I disagree. I think with a OL on Collins, Faulk, Hurst, Washington, Williford, Blackwell, Lonergan, maybe Greg Robinson, and Trai Turner, LSUs strong point in the near future will be their OL.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 6:49 pm to lynxcat
I agree Lynx.. A lot of people worry more about kids 11-15 on the depth chart then they do 5-8 on here. LSU offensive line has a good future. Just not sure if their getting the proper motivation to compete every play with the line coach they have...Thats another issue all together though.
Posted on 8/15/10 at 7:38 pm to seinfeldtiger
no way ol will be best unit. think randall, shep, c.toliver, landry, boone, odj
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