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re: Fong believes Texas is in the best position for 5-Star DL Dominick McKinley and 2 other 5*
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:35 pm to MightyYat
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:35 pm to MightyYat
7-10 is really good but man a consistent top 3 like bama, uga, and osu would be awesome. We’re already better than most at winning natty’s. We could move into potential dynasty level like bama and where uga is heading if we could break into that top tier recruiting wise
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Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:42 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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That doesn’t cut it bud
It’s more than enough. Minimal difference between any team in top 10 and that’s just a fact. Those “star ratings” are not a real science. It’s very much opinion based (and more often than not players get bumped up or down depending on the school they commit to. The Bama Bump is a real thing).
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:43 pm to Keaux10
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If true about Dom's mom and her not liking Lsu at all, then we don’t have a prayer in this battle either!!
I'd love to see any kind of source for that.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:45 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
It absolutely does
You need to stack enough blue chip talent. If that equates to the #1 class or the #8 class, it doesn’t matter. As long as your acquiring enough blue chip talent, you can contend.
You need to stack enough blue chip talent. If that equates to the #1 class or the #8 class, it doesn’t matter. As long as your acquiring enough blue chip talent, you can contend.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:46 pm to Tigerguru96
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a consistent top 3 like bama, uga, and osu would be awesome.
Never gonna happen. LSU isn’t the “brand” that those teams are. We are a “brand” just not on that level of popularity across the country. Their players will ALWAYS get bumped over ours just like ours will ALWAYS be bumped up over teams like Ole Miss or Arkansas. It’s unfortunately just a product of the system and which teams generate the most clicks. Unless something happens to make LSU as popular of a “brand” as teams like Bama, OSU, etc, their recruits will almost always be rated higher.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:46 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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top 7-10 class just like we usually do.
That doesn’t cut it bud
During Clemson's run they had classes ranked:
7
9
11
15
16
Use the portal and develop players that are more raw, but talented. BK put a huge emphasis on the S&C program which is as good as any in the country. It's going to be a tougher road than the resource rich programs, but if anyone can leverage talent, BK can.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:50 pm to DBG
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You need to stack enough blue chip talent. If that equates to the #1 class or the #8 class, it doesn’t matter. As long as your acquiring enough blue chip talent, you can contend.
This.
The difference between the top player at any position and the #5 player at that position really is minimal if all other things are the same. For instance, on average the number 1 QB and the number 5 QB over any given years would perform almost the same if coaching received were the same. The difference would be nominal at best and nonexistent most likely.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:59 pm to BayouCowboy
Don’t use that kind of solid logic, these dumbasses are upset they can’t brag about a meaningless ranking to their buddies.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 2:59 pm to brennans flip flops
Aww you poor baby
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:03 pm to talmaniandevil_25
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I’ll say it’s fair… maybe they don’t. But if Texas (which is very talented this season) makes a run, with their money, pedigree, and their head of recruiting being from right here in LA and a former LSU player, you don’t think they are gonna come after every top kid in the state? They already pulled Arch (don’t care) and Derek Williams. Now they more than likely will get McKinley if they want him. You aren’t the least bit worried? You should be.
I got blasted on here for saying our staff is coming for LSU's throat. I get it, I shouldnt have put it like that on this board, but thats basically what is happening. We havent recruited Louisiana this hard maybe ever. Yea we are throwing big money around, but that wouldnt make a difference if we hadnt joined the SEC. Thats the big change. Everyone wants Louisiana athletes but we were dead in the water with the elite kids because they werent gonna play in the Big 12.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:06 pm to DCtiger1
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Don’t use that kind of solid logic, these dumbasses are upset they can’t brag about a meaningless ranking to their buddies.
There's no doubt that there is a strong correlation between elite talent and success, but there are equalizers.
The portal
Development
Coaching
Kelly will probably need to tweak the staff a bit more and he's been clear he needs time to establish depth and get the program as a whole where it needs to be. Year one proves he knows what he's doing. His career record proves he knows what he's doing.
I know it's an impossible ask, but fans need to be patient.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:06 pm to DCtiger1
“Meaningless rankings”
Statistics show this to be completely wrong
Statistics show this to be completely wrong
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:07 pm to J2thaROC
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Minimal difference between any team in top 10 and that’s just a fact.
Ever since Clemson's little run ended, I don't think you can make this argument (and they were the lone exception).
We have Bama, UGA and, soon, UT to compete with in-conference. If we can't get top 3-4 classes to compete with them, we won't be able to compete without insane transfer portal luck.
quote:
Those “star ratings” are not a real science. It’s very much opinion based
And, for how unscientific it is, the system is shockingly accurate for NFL draftees.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:09 pm to BayouCowboy
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but if anyone can leverage talent, BK can.
Because of all the titles he has?
Look I'm not trying to talk shite about Kelly, but people like you keep pumping all this confidence when he has almost no skins on the wall.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:10 pm to Monahans
No one gives a shite about you and your even shittier takes. Go play in your board.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:10 pm to LSUTIGERS8181
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That doesn’t cut it bud
I mean, LSU is LITERALLY your fricking example. Some of you need to chill the frick out. The portal changes everything. They put together the most dominant championship run we've ever seen in 2019. The 4 classes before that?
2018 - 10
2017 - 7
2016 - 3
2015 - 10
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:10 pm to Tigerguru96
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7-10 is really good but man a consistent top 3 like bama, uga, and osu would be awesome.
It's comforting when you do some research on our recruiting history. We get some top 5 classes here and there, but we're consistently closer to #10 than we are to #3.
Saban averaged the #10 class here.
Miles and Orgeron were both around #7.
Kelly is trending a little better than any of them, and the portal is a HUGE part of that.
LSU has done remarkably well considering that we normally average the 7th-8th ranked class.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:10 pm to Monahans
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Yea we are throwing big money around, but that wouldnt make a difference if we hadnt joined the SEC. Thats the big change. Everyone wants Louisiana athletes but we were dead in the water with the elite kids because they werent gonna play in the Big 12.
Yes this is going to be a problem for LSU, but even worse than LSU, the second tier SEC programs who rely on LA talent.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:12 pm to MightyYat
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They put together the most dominant championship run we've ever seen in 2019
With the most insane of outlier luck in Burrow.
How often do you think we can rely on that moving forward?
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Look I'm not trying to talk shite about Kelly, but people like you keep pumping all this confidence when he has almost no skins on the wall.
He got a damn good start after everyone was lampooning him and LSU. All LSU has needed is a good coach. Second Brady shows up theyre world beaters. BK might be a red faced sawed off yankee, but the dude has shown he can coach everywhere hes been. Id be very happy to see him somewhere else.
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