re: Downvote away, I don't like it but it's the truth...

You’re not wrong. Bama, UGA, and OSU recruit on another level than everyone else. It’s just facts

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Telling the truth isn't always negative and if it negative then that is just part of it.

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That's the issue though, it isn't the truth. The truth is that there is a significant portion of this fanbase that will only ever post something if it puts LSU in a poor light. That is what many of us have such a problem with.

So you can try to seem like you are just opining on our current state of recruiting. That may even seem to be the truth in your mind. It's intellectually dishonest though.

If our class isnt up to LSU's standard come December, or even February then by all means, bitch about it. We have a long way to go still, and many highly sought after players, (5 star or top 100) will choose LSU.

We will have a top 5 or so class. So why all the hand wringing and sky falling posts ? It only serves to make our fanbase look like a bunch of spoiled dumbasses. Believe it or not, many recruits and their friends and families read this board. Is that how you would like to be perceived ?

Appreciate the credit but my opinion is no greater or valid than any others. Mine is just my personal pov based on following this business closely for a long time. I've bitched quite a bit about this class and likely to continue doing so until shown different.
That said, there are many things I do like about it and certainly players in it I'm happy are part of it. The depth of it is certainly a positive going forward. Like the DB group, Mack or not. Brad Davis is really working and feel hes on the right track with the OL. Sloan is killing the '25 class but he has to land one of them. I don't agree with the process of how Hurley got here but no real issue with him. Kelly has a different style to building that I'm willing to be patient with and not truly judge until that time it's necessary(wins and losses).

Maybe it's that I'm spoiled from the past successes on the trail but this class is so outside the norm that it's cause for alarm(admittedly maybe premature). We are losing all the close battles(quite a few we had high confidence with), losing many of those to future conference opponents, trending downward for the top 2 prospects in the state due to future conference opponents, don't have the most favorable board in regards to top recruits, no positive developments on the DL/edge to be heard of(with 2 borderline prospects on board), a down year instate(it just is), no real ace recruiter we count on to close(don't give me Frank Wilson, hes been in charge and yet there's concern with Mack/Mckinley/Singleton), perceptionally we are getting absolutely toasted by Texas in the highest profile battle of the cycle(Simmons)where publicly we've been lauded as the leader for a year(whether true or not perception does matter), so badly a timeline that has been constantly driven in our heads will go to December, is suddenly being reported everywhere(all sites, national reporters) could end any day now, and lastly, and most telling, is the drivel every insider we have short of Sonny Shipp, is spewing on a daily basis trying to pump sunshine up our asses. It's media 101 to soften the blow of disappointment. Being that the most high profile of them all(and pumping the most), and my favorite in all honesty though I've been critical, has a vested interest in spinning positivity surrounding the program due to the job his wife holds only makes things seem more troubling. But maybe all that is the staffs plan and we just can't see the forest for the trees. Not quite sure I can force myself to buy that no matter how much I hope its true. Just my opinion of course.

Who the hell are you bring in common sense into this thread. Whoever you are, please continue to post more. I like the way you think.

I’ll kind of help you here, they haven’t even started putting Christmas stuff out in Walmarks. That’s how long you have till signing day. Kelly had to delay heading to Omaha, just to finish up in BTR with a number of recruits. We have a number of DL players on the roster, Freshmen, Sophomore and Juniors. They are being brought along in the developmental phase. Did anyone listen as to how Kelly wanted to fill his roster? He wants high school kids, develop, learn the system. He would mix in players from the portal, he would call back Louisiana players, help fill his roster. To think they are sitting around, not getting a verbal every day, that’s not recruiting. You can get a verbal, but you also have to keep that player till signing day.
As I look at the roster, 26 players have transferred in from other colleges. 26 is a recruiting class. Of that number only 9 are Seniors, so many of those will be here next season.
If you’ve followed recruiting over the years, you’ll see Kelly and staff are right where he wants to be.

As of the last few months, LSU with Women’s Basketball and Mens Baseball, no college is getting more publicity, not even close.

As for the stars, you can go back an rank players after 3-4 years, some of them would lose stars, some would gain stars.

Well stated. 2 years ago this team was on life support with a coach that gave up on the team and was leaking players. With limited expectations we win 10 games, win the West, beat Bama and go to Atlanta. Most of the staff remains, we are loaded with talent, return most of the offense and signed 40 players last cycle.

Kelly can coach. If LSU takes another step forward this season, the recruiting will come as signing day approaches in the fall.

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Question my opinions about a subpar, for LSU, recruiting class

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It’s pretty reactionary to be this way about a recruiting class in fricking July though. Really surprised that it’s you considering how you seem to usually be the complete opposite of that type of poster.

One of the only universities putting together both top 5 recruiting and transfer portal classes and you guys think the sky is falling. LSU is one of the leading schools with NIL money right now and the proof is in the athletes. You guys are absolutely fricking insane if you think LSU is going to wave the white flag in the biggest money sport for them. But but money! Our endowment is low!? Tell me again why is LSU still finishing with top 5 classes in both recruiting/portal? Why do we have some of the highest paid athletes in the country? Why did we just win 2 NCs both of which was largely contributed to the transfer portal? Oh, wait, I'm sorry 3 NCs with the other having another generational player for LSU in the transfer portal. Did LSU not just now destroy the portal in the offseason for football? Yes they did.

lmao

Commitments right now mean jack shite in July. Shut up and let everything play out. The value to win immediately right now is not in HS recruiting, it's the portal. You control the portal, you win. It's that simple. HS recruits can leave after 1 year. They're still important but how the NCAA is managed right now the portal is more important for success. HS players take development and they also are a headache to keep past 1 year. You identify 2-3 guys you absolutely have to get on campus that can start day 1 as impact players from HS and you keep them. The rest is depth and hopefuls you can keep around but the real effort goes into the portal to fill your gaps and get the rest of the instant impact guys.

LSU the past few years in athletics has absolutely raided the transfer portal with generational athletes and has some of the highest paid in the country. LSU has it figured out. Very few else do. They're playing catch up not the other way around. You guys are focusing your attention in the wrong areas. I'm glad our athletics has smarter people than this board.

Wingo is a prime example. He wasn't a 5 star coming out of high school but was named to the all sec freshman team. Then coach Kelly recruits him to LSU and in his first year he's 2nd team all sec and 3rd team all American. Our highest rated player blows out his knee and can't contribute. Now if Masson Smith and Wingo can stay healthy we'll have the best pair of dt's in cfb. You guys should really trust our coaches more than you do. LSU is a tremendous brand in the sports world and we now have top of the line coaches who will adapt. Good times are ahead for the Tigers!