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re: Chris Stanfield BOOM !!
Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:30 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:30 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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I had never heard of this guy until an hour ago.
So you don’t watch lsu or sec baseball
Got it
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:31 am to hall59tiger
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It’s not really taking a chance.
Its always taking a chance. Look at Bingham. Dude hit .360 at his previous school and his average dropped .100 points for us. No one is a guarantee.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:33 am to Lester Earl
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So you don’t watch lsu or sec baseball
I pay very little attention to schools like Auburn and I don't memorize the names of opposing players that hit .275. Sue me.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:41 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Good get with SEC experience. Jay is going to have to replace 20+ guys from the '24 team. They gotta come from somewhere.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:52 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Its always taking a chance.
By this logic even a “great addition” in your mind would be taking a chance.
The Bingham comp doesn’t work because this dude has great numbers for a CF in conference play. You can tell just by watching him that he’s a play maker.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:56 am to Oescron
Why because he didn’t hit 33 HRs with .430 batting average last year?
Some of yall are clueless
Some of yall are clueless
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:10 pm to hall59tiger
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The Bingham comp doesn’t work because this dude has great numbers for a CF in conference play
Do CF numbers work differently than other positions? He's not a catcher where wear and tear could be a factor.
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You can tell just by watching him that he’s a play maker.
I'm glad you saw him make a few plays but he also batted .276 and while it did improve in conference play, .283 isn't all American type numbers. I hope he comes in and improves his numbers just like Braswell did but the kid isn't a sure thing just because we want him to be.
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By this logic even a “great addition” in your mind would be taking a chance.
1) you are saying this kid isn't a great addition by declaring that I'd be skeptical even if he was one.
2) Yes even the kid from Indiana State that hit .360 is taking a chance. Maybe he is awesome for us and I sincerely hope that he is. But maybe he is Tyler McManus or Mac Bingham and the step up in pitching really hurts him.
3) Only a Tommy White type of player that excelled in the SEC or ACC (maybe Big12 too) would be classified as a sure thing. Every other player is somewhat of an unknown until they get here and we see what they look like vs SEC competition. For example, Justin Loer had better numbers than every pitcher we have signed thus far this season and he was average at best for us this past year. The Cowen kid from Wofford could be great and his stuff could play well or he could be just like Loer. We will see.
After this past season I would think that more people would understand that we should wait and see how these smaller school/average numbers guys look before we declare ourselves offseason champs. I think we have added a bunch of really good players that could help us right the ship but that doesn't mean that some of them won't have a learning curve. These guys could be Braswell or White or they could be Bingham or Loer.
TL;DR: I am happy woth the guys we are bringing in but don't piss on me and tell me its raining. None of them are Tommy White level sure things.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:10 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
You should probably actually watch SEC baseball then, and not just LSU.
Average numbers? Our entire outfield had average numbers. He’s a projected third round draft pick with a high ceiling. This a great pickup.
God forbid the outfield room be crowded to create competition.
Average numbers? Our entire outfield had average numbers. He’s a projected third round draft pick with a high ceiling. This a great pickup.
God forbid the outfield room be crowded to create competition.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:12 pm to chadr07
Jay went and identified Michael Braswell and he ended up being a major piece of this years team. He went from .255 at South Carolina as a Sophomore to .311 as a Junior at LSU under Jay. Stanfield comes in at .276, let Jay get to work with him and see what he can do.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:19 pm to GeauxFish31
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You should probably actually watch SEC baseball then, and not just LSU.
Pass.
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Average numbers? Our entire outfield had average numbers.
And outside of Larson I'd like them all replaced with guys that could do better. Brown being just a freshman should be given a chance to improve.
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He’s a projected third round draft pick with a high ceiling
Cam Johnson was a projected first rounder and threw 9 innings. MLB projections don't tell the story of who the player is right now.
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This a great pickup.
Never said it wasn't.
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God forbid the outfield room be crowded to create competition.
Our HC just had a presser where he said being too deep was an issue this year because players were unhappy.
Just to be clear, I would be perfectly happy with a Kling level CFer that can hit .275. I never said he was bad pickup. Just said that he's not a sure thing and that I needed more context than his numbers provided. I have since received that context but yall are mad because I won't agree that he is a Tommy White level pick up.
This to me is similar to picking up Braswell which I think is a very fair comp. Braswell was very good for us this past season.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:22 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Let’s get to work…..
Absolutely. You can’t compare his numbers to a 1b or DH. CF is a prime defensive position so you take a trade off here. I’d love a Honeycutt at CF but those don’t grow on trees
Who said it was? It’s an upgrade from last year and for that it’s worth being excited over
Huh? Make some sense here.
Taking a chance implies he needs to get better to be helpful. If this dude comes in and repeats last years numbers it’s already an upgrade. His upside is just the cherry on top
2) You keep comparing him to out of conference guys. This dude had great numbers for a CF in conference play against the arguably toughest schedule in the sec.
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I’m confused. This dude had good numbers in sec play. I agree he’s no White or Montgomery type player but he’s a huge upgrade at CF. It’s actually going to be tought to keep the kid because of how high he projects in the draft. Professionals even see it
Who the frick are you talking about?
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Do CF numbers work differently than other positions?
Absolutely. You can’t compare his numbers to a 1b or DH. CF is a prime defensive position so you take a trade off here. I’d love a Honeycutt at CF but those don’t grow on trees
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283 isn't all American type numbers.
Who said it was? It’s an upgrade from last year and for that it’s worth being excited over
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you are saying this kid isn't a great addition by declaring that I'd be skeptical even if he was one.
Huh? Make some sense here.
Taking a chance implies he needs to get better to be helpful. If this dude comes in and repeats last years numbers it’s already an upgrade. His upside is just the cherry on top
2) You keep comparing him to out of conference guys. This dude had great numbers for a CF in conference play against the arguably toughest schedule in the sec.
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Only a Tommy White type of player that excelled in the SEC or ACC (maybe Big12 too) would be classified as a sure thing. Every other player is somewhat of an unknown until they get here and we see what they look like vs SEC competition.
I’m confused. This dude had good numbers in sec play. I agree he’s no White or Montgomery type player but he’s a huge upgrade at CF. It’s actually going to be tought to keep the kid because of how high he projects in the draft. Professionals even see it
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more people would understand that we should wait and see how these smaller school/average numbers guys look before we declare ourselves offseason champs.
Who the frick are you talking about?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:29 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
This is kind of peak tigerdroppings. Admitting and taking pride that you do not watch other games. But thinking we should then give a shite what you think about a player lol
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:34 pm to Lester Earl
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This is kind of peak tigerdroppings. Admitting and taking pride that you do not watch other games. But thinking we should then give a shite what you think about a player lol
For real lol. I’m just hopeful for his sake that he’s trolling at this point
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:35 pm to hall59tiger
I'm going to cut the rest of the BS and just talk about the one area where I think we are actually disagreeing:
This is where we aren't seeing eye to eye. You are looking at it like repeating his numbers last year is a guarantee. Guys that hit .275 aren't guarateed to hit .275 again. Our hope is that he does or that he improves and given his ceiling thats a definite possibility. BUT the flip side of that is that a guy that hit .275 wasn't dominating pitching either so the idea of him slipping to being a .250 or worse hitter like Pearson or Bingham isn't out of the realm of possibility. In other words, a guy that hits .330 in the SEC or ACC is pissing on the ball against top level pitchers and even if his numbers dip some, he's still a .300 hitter at minimum. A guy that hits .275 is battling but not dominating. Meaning that while he could improve and start to win more battles and get to .300 like Braswell did, He could also start losing those battles as pitchers start to learn more about his weaknesses as a hitter.
Now what we DO agree on is that this is a much needed defensive upgrade and as long as he hits .250 or above he will be better than what we had this past season.
But I do stand by the idea that no player is a guarantee unless they dominated SEC or ACC ball or to a lesser extent Big 12 or PAC 12 (RIP) ball.
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Taking a chance implies he needs to get better to be helpful. If this dude comes in and repeats last years numbers it’s already an upgrade.
This is where we aren't seeing eye to eye. You are looking at it like repeating his numbers last year is a guarantee. Guys that hit .275 aren't guarateed to hit .275 again. Our hope is that he does or that he improves and given his ceiling thats a definite possibility. BUT the flip side of that is that a guy that hit .275 wasn't dominating pitching either so the idea of him slipping to being a .250 or worse hitter like Pearson or Bingham isn't out of the realm of possibility. In other words, a guy that hits .330 in the SEC or ACC is pissing on the ball against top level pitchers and even if his numbers dip some, he's still a .300 hitter at minimum. A guy that hits .275 is battling but not dominating. Meaning that while he could improve and start to win more battles and get to .300 like Braswell did, He could also start losing those battles as pitchers start to learn more about his weaknesses as a hitter.
Now what we DO agree on is that this is a much needed defensive upgrade and as long as he hits .250 or above he will be better than what we had this past season.
But I do stand by the idea that no player is a guarantee unless they dominated SEC or ACC ball or to a lesser extent Big 12 or PAC 12 (RIP) ball.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:03 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
What if Larson goes to 1st base next year? You got Pearson LF Brown in RF and this kid would be a hell of a CF so we may need him
Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:34 pm to pitchandcatch27
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Any stolen bases
Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:46 pm to king47
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this kid would be a hell of a CF so we may need him
Please show me where I said this kid was a bad pick up?
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:05 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Uh.... he is as good as Kling on defense, with a much better batting average! Upgrade all over!
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:31 am to Bert Macklin FBI
You didn't know who he was an hour ago. You spend more time posting on social media than watching baseball.
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