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re: Can't blame Orgeron for kids going elsewhere

Posted on 2/7/18 at 10:47 am to
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7257 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 10:47 am to
I hope your pirogue gets a leak
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47791 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 10:51 am to
14 and falling.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10439 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 10:52 am to
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He sent the whole offensive and defensive staffs to try to sway the recruits they needed. Picture yourselves having to pursue a wishy-washy high school kid that craves attention.


None of this matters when your head coach is a complete joke and promotes his buddies instead of people that actually are promising stars in their coaching areas.

LSU is going to struggle in the coming years because of people like you supporting a horrid hire.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
10835 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 10:53 am to
Yes Coach Zero has no control over winning championships... Spot on Bro.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
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83331 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 10:55 am to
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oldtimefootball



Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3056 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 11:02 am to
There is some truth in this statement. Consider this:

- A large percentage of LSU graduates leave La. post-graduation.

- Corporations have been pulling out of La. for decades

- La. can't compete with other states attracting new business.

- The state has a well earned reputation of corruption.
Posted by oldtimefootball
Winnfield La
Member since Feb 2013
434 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 11:49 am to
Well, it looks like all the dumbasses came out to reply to this. Recruiting now is a big joke - getting a commitment from a kid in the 10th grad doesn't mean s**t. Ed Orgeron did everything possible to get Surtain and Goodrich and none of you pointed what he could have done differently. You are the same people that have been yearning for Aranda to be HC; why didn't HE reel in these 2 DEFENSIVE backs?
Get off Orgeron's back. Ensminger will be a good OC and LSU will be a lot better this year. So kiss off.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14852 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 11:56 am to
Op you realize the whole O thing is based on what a great recruiter he would be at LSU

pay attention
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70883 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 11:56 am to
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In my opinion it is demeaning to a coach to have to go through this recruiting crap




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Why is Aranda and the DB coach not getting blamed for this?


listen to me closely. Elite players don't want to play for Orgeron, as he is being negatively recruited against by other coaches. Period. Other SEC coaches aren't downplaying Aranda and Raymond. They are telling these kids that O can't win (look at Ole Miss record) and that he won't be the HC by the time they are juniors.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 11:57 am to
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oldtimefootball






Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 11:58 am to
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listen to me closely. Elite players don't want to play for Orgeron, as he is being negatively recruited against by other coaches. Period. Other SEC coaches aren't downplaying Aranda and Raymond. They are telling these kids that O can't win (look at Ole Miss record) and that he won't be the HC by the time they are juniors.


Absolutely positively ALL of this!
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 12:00 pm to
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Can't blame Orgeron for kids going elsewhere


he is the head coach. he is literally the first person you should blame for kids going elsewhere.
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 12:01 pm to
Excellent post cas4t.

Combine playing for championships (Alabama; Clemson; Oklahoma; Ohio State; Georgia) and Coach O's record and the direction of the programs is obvious to any recruit.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64014 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 12:01 pm to
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Can't blame Orgeron for kids going elsewhere by oldtimefootball

Uhhhh yes the frick you can
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2402 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 12:02 pm to
Orgeron failed to sell himself as a coach, and he failed to sell the LSU football program. That is absolutely on him. In contrast, the LSU basketball coach has his program recruiting on a national level because he has done both of those things well even though the team is currently in the lower tier of the SEC standings.

Both are responsible for their respective programs. Orgeron gets the blame, and Will Wade gets the credit.
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
6457 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 12:05 pm to
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LSU recruiting staff did everything they could to bring in Surtain and Goodrich. You smart asses that are being so negative tell us what Orgeron failed to do. He sent the whole offensive and defensive staffs to try to sway the recruits they needed. Picture yourselves having to pursue a wishy-washy high school kid that craves attention. In my opinion it is demeaning to a coach to have to go through this recruiting crap. Why is Aranda and the DB coach not getting blamed for this? If every recruiting failure should be blamed on the HC, then Les Miles should be sued for malfeasance in office. Have a good day.


Wow. Just .....wow. You are fricking clueless.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70883 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 12:08 pm to
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Combine playing for championships (Alabama; Clemson; Oklahoma; Ohio State; Georgia) and Coach O's record and the direction of the programs is obvious to any recruit.



It's obvious to anyone who even remotely follows this stuff. Orgeron was doomed from the beginning. Far too many successful coaches who know how to sell in the mix.

Add in Jimbo and Mullen to UF and the cards are really stacked against him.

LSU needs a proven winner or at least and up and coming coach with a better story. Orgeron's story is horrible.
Posted by eugene1928LSU
Shreveport, La
Member since Oct 2013
2780 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 12:11 pm to
Your are correct but you are too logical for the haters that are fake Tiger fans. I think the fake fans hypocrisy is about as bad as getting beat by the gumps. Reading what some of these idiot say negatively about LSU is like I on a board that despises LSU. Sickening, worst fake fans U.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
2951 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 12:18 pm to
When people are pissed and the situation is hopeless, fans and longtime supporters vent. That is what this is. And why the hell wouldn't we vent? What hope do you see that almost everyone else doesn't? O is still our coach and now recruiting is not going well. Pardon me if I don't see a silver lining.

If eating the shite that a bunch of incompetent assholes are pooping makes you a true fan than count me out. True fans want to see their teams do well and want to have hope that things will be ok. This current administration both at the coaching level and above does not demonstrate that potential.
Posted by SouthBayTiger
Rolling Hills, California
Member since Dec 2009
229 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 12:34 pm to
But what gets me - is if he respected Raymond and LSU - he should have let the staff know in advance so they could have locked down another DB...

It is his choice but he really screwed LSU by leading us on...
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