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re: Cam Cameron watched Zachary QB Lindsey Scott dismantle another great Defense

Posted on 12/13/15 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36104 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 8:28 pm to
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Florida still going after Eason eventhough they have Frank's is what big programs do.


Comparing offering Scott to UF potentially signing 2 of the highest rated QBs in this class is laughable. If one of them bails, you still have a top guy. If you get both, it's ok because they are both worth a scholarship. One will likely transfer down the road, but you have a better chance of one becoming a great QB and playing 3-4 years for you.

If LSU has a legit shot with Haskins and writes him off early for a guy who many never be more than a project that is a bad for in our current offense, it would be supremely stupid.
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Jeff Goldblum
Gardner, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1099 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 8:38 pm to
Misey94, you're right. What was I thinking? Les and Cam when told the adage "adapt or die" would choose the latter.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36104 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 8:39 pm to
I didn't say this was smart, just that it's our current reality.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:09 pm to
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However, you LA homers need to face the fact that he isn't the best available, and he IS currently a backup plan.


STFU Do you see a line of better QB's knocking down LSU's door? Scott is our best chance of landing a competent QB in this class. If you think LSU is in a position to flip some highly recruit QB in the 12th hour, you are delusional.
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7876 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:22 pm to
Hmmm Cam was in the dome but wasn't anywhere to be seen. O, BDP, Steele were all on the field for 4a and 5a games. He should have been on the sidelines showing his face. What an arse.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36104 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

STFU Do you see a line of better QB's knocking down LSU's door? Scott is our best chance of landing a competent QB in this class. If you think LSU is in a position to flip some highly recruit QB in the 12th hour, you are delusional.


So, they should just start settling in recruiting now, right? We can't get Haskins because you say so, so why try. It's a good thing our defensive staff doesn't use your recruiting philosophy. Oh wait, our last staff did. Where the hell did that get our front 7?

Settling in recruiting won't work. Not with this staff. Without great talent, we won't be complaining about losing 3 games anymore.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 9:29 pm to
Cam wasn't on the sidelines with the rest of the staff??
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
10027 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:32 pm to
Harvard offered this dude. He's smart as hell
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27834 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:48 pm to
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Caneron was in the dome but wasn't anywhere to be seen. O, BDP, Steele were all on the field for 4a and 5a games. He should have been on the sidelines showing his face. What an arse.



I mean, I'm not leading a Cam campaign, but to call him an arse for watching from the boxes is petty
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
36069 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:05 pm to
Who's gonna round out the class?
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:09 pm to
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Harvard offered this dude. He's smart as hell


If that's true, we have no chance of getting him. Guys got to know that he probably has next to 0% chance of making it to the NFL so I don't see him turning down a Harvard education to get one from LSU.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62261 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

Harvard offered this dude.



How does that work exactly? Ivy League schools do not give athletic scholarships.
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:49 am to
With our coaching staff's inability to evaluate and/or develop QBs, they need to do like Rich Rod did at WVU and bring in like 7 QBs and see if you can one in the bunch. Especially, if you want a dual threat QB, the ones that don't pan out at QB can play WR, safety, etc.

That one position is make or break for Miles if he wants to be at LSU until he retires. Taking 2 QBs in 3 years is not going to cut it.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
20233 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 1:16 am to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 11:23 pm
Posted by CJH1977
LaPlace
Member since Oct 2015
62 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 7:36 am to
scott is a stud everybody is saying he's an athlete the kid is a qb he read coverage he make great decisions with the ball he has great anticipation I've seen him make all the throws a qb should make this will be a bad decision to not offer this kid
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 7:39 am to
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Harvard offered this dude. He's smart as hell


Want another example of how smart? Zachary's coaches say Scott's football IQ is so ridiculously high that he'll come to the sideline after running the offense and tell the coaches what he sees the defense doing and what will work against that defense. Scott studies film and defenses on the field like he studies in class.

After being slowed down in the 1st half in the Dome, you noticed how Zachary smashed the defense in the second half. Part of that success was Scott's ability to read and tell the coaches how to adjust to what the defense were doing. Yes guys, he's that damn smart.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36104 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 8:20 am to
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With our coaching staff's inability to evaluate and/or develop QBs, they need to do like Rich Rod did at WVU and bring in like 7 QBs and see if you can one in the bunch. Especially, if you want a dual threat QB, the ones that don't pan out at QB can play WR, safety, etc. That one position is make or break for Miles if he wants to be at LSU until he retires. Taking 2 QBs in 3 years is not going to cut it.


We are not playing in the old Big East. There is absolutely no way that LSU could get away with using that many schollys on QBs in the SEC. Rich Rod built an entire offense out if small and fast guys that were easy to recruit, because a lot of schools would either pass on them, or move them to the secondary. However, we don't run that offense, and if we did, it wouldn't be successful. The SEC teams that run spread or variations of it all use bigger, more physical players than WVU ever did.

So this just doesn't hold up. If we recruit a bunch of 5-9 to 6' athletes to play QB, where will we move the ones who done work out in our offense or defense? In case you haven't noticed, we don't have very many guys under 6' in this program. Even most of our secondary is bigger and taller than the kinds of guys that you were talking about. The staff would have to change their entire offensive philosophy to fit this kind of recruiting, and I think we have ample evidence that they're not going to do that.

A much more common sense approach for them would be to start recruiting quarterbacks that actually fit the damn system. Haskins is the best guy who may still be available (depending on how solid his commitment to Maryland is) for what we run. Most of us fail to understand Cam's obsession with dual-threat guys, since his scheme is an awful for most of them. It's time for him to go back to what worked, and that was Mett- a strong-armed QB who is a pass-first guy and can throw all the throws out of the pocket in the SEC.

Getting back to Scott, he sounds like a great player for a team like Syracuse, or Houston, or Memphis. Teams that will roll him out and move him around and take advantage of what he can do. Unfortunately, he is a terrible fit for what we do right now. Cam wants an under-center, drop-back passer. We run at least 1/2 of our offense out of a formation that demands this. We ran less and less read option over the course of the year, and rarely use called bootlegs and rollouts. A guy Scott's size won't even be able to see over our current line at a 3 or 5 step drop because we have a bunch of huge guys up front and don't use wide splits.

If Cam would be willing to change things up to suit the QB, maybe he would be effective here. I would love to see him take a guy like this and build a high-powered offense around him. But other than a little read-option and jet sweep toward the end of last year, what have we seen to suggest this will happen? I'm going off of evidence here. The evidence we have says that Miles and Cam won't make significant changes to suit a QB, and that a big, pro-style guy is a better fit.

Someone prove me wrong based on something more than wishing and hoping.
Posted by Magicmikeforlsu
Cenla
Member since Oct 2012
1797 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 8:30 am to
I think it's time to take a damn chance. What we've been doing isn't cutting it. We've had a lot of "talented" scholarship players on this team that never panned out.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 8:39 am to
quote:

So, they should just start settling in recruiting now, right? We can't get Haskins because you say so, so why try.



Why the frick were they wasting time with Franks after he decommitted and committed to Florida? They basically sole out for this kid only to have it to blow up in their face. Now they want to try to make up ground with kids they supposedly haven't had contact with in months??? Going after Scott is not settling it is offering the best high school player in the state of Louisiana.


quote:

. It's a good thing our defensive staff doesn't use your recruiting philosophy. Oh wait, our last staff did. Where the hell did that get our front 7?



WTF frick are you even talking about? What is my recruiting philosophy?

It is hard to follow you and your dumb arse rant. You talk shite and try to discredit Scott's abilities on the field. He was the best player in the state that is a FACT not some Louisiana homer bull shite you were blabbing about. I will take the word of those who have seen him play multiple times over some dumb arse in Mississippi.
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2559 posts
Posted on 12/14/15 at 8:45 am to
All he would need to be able to do would be to learn to hand off on those off tackle dives and he would have our offense down pat
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