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re: A few good things about Ringo to Georgia,
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:36 pm to Cs
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:36 pm to Cs
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I agree. Which is why I've been vocal about our QB recruiting.
Clemson adds DJ.
Alabama adds Bryce Young.
Ohio State adds Stroud.
These other schools just regularly reload with 5* QBs and continue right along with their offenses each year. LSU clearly isn't there yet.
When O was hired, I was a big supporter of it. I believed he could do everything that was needed to turn us around, except that I wasn't sure if he could change our QB culture. Like most of us feel, it's weird that even with the success we had this year, we couldn't land at least one elite QB. I mean, Johnson looks underrated IMO, but he isn't elite (yet). As much as I love O, he has to do a much better job of recruiting QB's.
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:37 pm to Rosenblatt
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Reading through interviews various prospects have given it’s apparent that Kirbys best pitch seems to be negative recruiting Gotta tip your hat to the guy. Negative recruiting, creatively “selling” his program....he’s seemed to have caught up to saban on that front
If he can’t close the deal on a trophy in the next 4 years, that negative recruiting is going to bite him in the arse. All of his major competition in recruiting WILL have them and be able to blow holes in his approach.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:40 pm to Cs
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These other schools just regularly reload with 5* QBs and continue right along with their offenses each year. LSU clearly isn't there yet.
We seem to have done pretty well with a QB who had only one offer as a 3 star, and whose coach told him he throws like a girl. Trust the staff that has brought us to where we are. Kirby has not gotten to this point and Dabo, until last year, did it with recruiting classes outside the top 5.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:40 pm to cra_cra
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Like most of us feel, it's weird that even with the success we had this year, we couldn't land at least one elite QB. I mean, Johnson looks underrated IMO, but he isn't elite (yet). As much as I love O, he has to do a much better job of recruiting QB's.
I agree. Why couldn't we land an elite QB this year? Orgeron has been here for 3 years at this point, and our high school QB recruiting looks like this:
- Parrish (313th overall, 11th DT)
- Johnson (252nd overall, 10th Pro)
- Finley (493rd overall, 20th Pro)
Alabama lost Kiffin, Clemson is losing Scott, but it doesn't seem to matter. They continued landing elite QBs like nothing changed.
We got lucky with Burrow this year - even O had admitted that. If we want to maintain this going forward then our staff better learn to recruit QBs like Clemson, Bama, and OSU do every year.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:41 pm to cra_cra
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As much as I love O, he has to do a much better job of recruiting QB's.
What do you think made him go out and hire Brady? If you are hanging around on a recruiting board, I assume you have some idea how it works. When he made that hire, most of the 2020 guys were either committed or down to a small group of teams that didn’t include us and our outdated offensive approach. The 2020 QBs were lost before we had any shot to change their minds.
The battle is 2021 and we’re in that because of the product on the field. As long as Brady stays and the offense keeps producing, the negative recruiting will fail and we will get one of these guys.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:43 pm to BayouCatFan
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You guys that say this shite are idiots. You dont seem to realize coaches improve. Was Saban the coach he turned out to be when he was at Michigan St? Was Orgeron the coach he is today when he was at Ole Miss? How about Dabo when he was in his 4th year at Clemson? Kirby is building a dynasty and most of you are so biased towards LSU you cant come up with a single objective thought.
He plays in the SEC east. It isn't as easy as it is for Oregon, or Texas/Oklahoma, or Clemson to make the playoffs, but it is way easier than playing in the SEC west. Florida is trending up, and since they play Auburn every year, and the SEC west champ, I just don't see them breaking through with Kirby as the coach. They'll always be good (because of all the talent), but he isn't good enough as a coach to win it all IMO.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:44 pm to BayouCatFan
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Was Saban the coach he turned out to be when he was at Michigan
Go check out what MSU did his last season in 99 and who was on that team then ask the same question.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:45 pm to Cs
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Eventually you recruit so many 5 stars that it doesn't matter.
They are just an OC change away from being scary good. People keep saying Kirby is an underwhelming coach, but if he smartens up and finds an OC with a modern offensive scheme look out. So people can say they don't care if Kirby gets all the recruits but in reality it will be a big problem for us and the entire sec if their offense is updated.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:46 pm to cra_cra
Six of the top eight classes in the country are in the SEC.
And four of those are in the West.
A 5th ranked class for LSU sounds outstanding, but when your annual opponents are ranked ahead of you, or just slightly behind you, you're not doing anything special - you're just doing what you need to survive.
And four of those are in the West.
A 5th ranked class for LSU sounds outstanding, but when your annual opponents are ranked ahead of you, or just slightly behind you, you're not doing anything special - you're just doing what you need to survive.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:49 pm to Tiger Tracker
Hopefully our coaches are continuing to learn and will close the deal on some guys going forward
No question we were well positioned, but Georgia is really closing at an elite level
Their ability to funnel money in a variety of ways is unmatched and their relationships with local car dealerships are as strong as you’ll find. They’re very creative in how they “sell” their program
No question we were well positioned, but Georgia is really closing at an elite level
Their ability to funnel money in a variety of ways is unmatched and their relationships with local car dealerships are as strong as you’ll find. They’re very creative in how they “sell” their program
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:50 pm to Tiger Tracker
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They are just an OC change away from being scary good. People keep saying Kirby is an underwhelming coach, but if he smartens up and finds an OC with a modern offensive scheme look out. So people can say they don't care if Kirby gets all the recruits but in reality it will be a big problem for us and the entire sec if their offense is updated.
The same could have been said for Miles. He never did. Here we are well past the prime coaching change window and he still hasn’t made a move away from a very lackluster OC. Stubbornness is a deadly coach killer. See Miles, Fulmer, Mack Brown at UT, Bowden, etc.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:52 pm to cra_cra
Damn. UGA got Ringo?
Their recruiting almost seems too good to be true.
Their recruiting almost seems too good to be true.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:52 pm to BayouCatFan
quote:They may be idiots, but they are right.
You guys that say this shite are idiots.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:54 pm to Cs
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I agree. Why couldn't we land an elite QB this year? Orgeron has been here for 3 years at this point, and our high school QB recruiting looks like this:
- Parrish (313th overall, 11th DT)
- Johnson (252nd overall, 10th Pro)
- Finley (493rd overall, 20th Pro)
Alabama lost Kiffin, Clemson is losing Scott, but it doesn't seem to matter. They continued landing elite QBs like nothing changed.
We got lucky with Burrow this year - even O had admitted that. If we want to maintain this going forward then our staff better learn to recruit QBs like Clemson, Bama, and OSU do every year.
Right on. At some point we have to figure out how to get the elite QB's committing to us early and sticking. Still a huge hurdle for O to get over.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:55 pm to Rosenblatt
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but Georgia is really closing at an elite level
From 2016-2018 they spent $7 mil in recruiting. The next closest was Bama with $5.5 mil. Don't know what LSU was over that time but if we want to compete for these recruits we need to spend more and make sure we keep our quality coaches to develop these guys. It's a tough game in the SEC but O is a great recruiter and I have a feeling he is already working on getting us up to the Bama and UGA levels of recruiting. It will just take time to bear fruit. This year will help start it. Just gotta keep it going through next year to really get the recruiting pipelines flowing.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 3:55 pm to Rebel
It does doesn’t it? It’s like they’re getting everyone they want
Depth chart doesn’t seem to matter to their recruits nor does winning championships. They all just love Kirby and Athens
It’s remarkable
Depth chart doesn’t seem to matter to their recruits nor does winning championships. They all just love Kirby and Athens
It’s remarkable
Posted on 1/4/20 at 4:00 pm to misey94
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The same could have been said for Miles. He never did. Here we are well past the prime coaching change window and he still hasn’t made a move away from a very lackluster OC. Stubbornness is a deadly coach killer. See Miles, Fulmer, Mack Brown at UT, Bowden, etc.
100% agree. I just think dismissing losing great recruits to UGA is not a wise idea. They may not be a real threat at the moment but Kirby is also in a different era of football than those other coaches and I think he learned enough from Saban to know when to say we gotta make a change to be in it every year. I think his desire to win will, at some point, overpower his stubbornness. Just my opinion. I could be 100% wrong but we should definitely be concerned with how stacked UGA will be for the next 3-5 years.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 4:04 pm to Tiger Tracker
I see the other Georgia bagmen thread got deleted....
Posted on 1/4/20 at 4:06 pm to nitwit
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Miles never recruited at this level.
Never.
I am very sorry you din't see the other similarities the UGA offense and the LSU offenses of old.
Sometimes we sleep while being fully awake.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 4:08 pm to La Place Mike
Bro most of Miles' top recruits were from LA or out of state established footholds like in areas of TX.
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