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3* Recruits - LSU Football
Posted on 7/10/22 at 6:48 am
Posted on 7/10/22 at 6:48 am
Those who are concerned, sit back and take a breath. These kids are just that, developing kids, physically and mentally. They have another year for development prior to stepping on campus, and many will development significantly during their freshman/sophomore years at LSU. And yes, 3* is a good athlete. At the end of the day, if BK extends an offer, they can play ball at the college level.
TRUST IN THE PROCESS - GEAUX TIGAS!
TRUST IN THE PROCESS - GEAUX TIGAS!
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 7:17 am to BayouTiga
I trust this staff more than any of the previous to determine who they do and don’t want. I also trust them to develop anyone they bring in. First time in a LONG time I’m really not worried about the coaching abilities of an LSU staff and they haven’t even played game 1.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:27 am to BayouTiga
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BayouTiga
Whew! Thank God you cleared that up. I feel at ease now
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:33 am to BayouTiga
3* U
jking
In all seriousness, 3* typically translates to project player who can develop into an all-american in the rating system. Not exactly bad. In any event, some of these guys are not going to stay 3* by final evaluations anyway.
Also, lol ratings compared to an elite scouting university on top of BK making evaluations.
jking
In all seriousness, 3* typically translates to project player who can develop into an all-american in the rating system. Not exactly bad. In any event, some of these guys are not going to stay 3* by final evaluations anyway.
Also, lol ratings compared to an elite scouting university on top of BK making evaluations.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:35 am to BayouTiga
Some of you people act as if LSU has never had any 3 star recruits in previous classes. We’ll have a few 3 stars with the majority being 4 stars and a sprinkle of 5 stars like always.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:43 am to BayouTiga
Well the three stars they got so far, if you watch the videos and see their stats, there is no way they should be three stars and most like will be upgraded during their sr seasons this fall before signing day...
If they had been committed to Bama they would have instantly got the Bama bump and been 4 stars...
If they had been committed to Bama they would have instantly got the Bama bump and been 4 stars...
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:47 am to BayouTiga
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if BK extends an offer, they can play ball at the college level
Major college level? That’s not true. There have been hundreds of kids that Brian Kelly offered who could not play ball at the major college level. And he’ll make more of those mistakes this season and every other season.
LSU’s 2017 class was, in my opinion, the greatest class in school history. It was only ranked 7th in the country, which I think makes your overall point, that rankings are not as important as evaluations by coaches. But do the names Seth Stewart, Lowell Narcisse, and Aaron Moffitt mean anything to you? They were three players, offered by the coaching staff that put together that tremendous class, who were not good enough to play major college ball.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:49 am to Penrod
That's every class. You have bust in every class no matter what. O made some bad evaluations himself the 2018 class killed us. If you don't have any busts typically you won a NC because of that. They're projections to the next level nothing more. BK has one of the best scouting universities behind him I think he'll be okay.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 8:52 am
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:01 am to BayouTiga
Weren’t Tyrann Matthieu and Jacob Hester three star recruits?
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:02 am to BayouTiga
What else they fail to realize is that those same 3 star players have time to become 4 or 5 star players.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:04 am to BayouTiga
I promise you you’ll have more success signing mostly top 150 prospects than not. Plenty of 3* players can and will perform at an elite level, but you better not make up the majority of your roster with them, or you'll put a ceiling on your program.
Do you think Uga won the national title because they develop players? Do you think Nick Saban has dominated college football because of the scheme? How about Ohio State?
Those teams win because when they take the field, they have, oftentimes, an extreme talent advantage over their opponent. The entire reason why BK came to lsu was to recruit at a higher level than he did at ND. He's not doing that with 3* prospects.
Do you think Uga won the national title because they develop players? Do you think Nick Saban has dominated college football because of the scheme? How about Ohio State?
Those teams win because when they take the field, they have, oftentimes, an extreme talent advantage over their opponent. The entire reason why BK came to lsu was to recruit at a higher level than he did at ND. He's not doing that with 3* prospects.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:14 am to gumbeaux
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Weren’t Tyrann Matthieu and Jacob Hester three star recruits?
TM was the #3 player in the state and a top 150 prospect.
Also, it's silly to point out 3* prospects who've had success at LSU. No one denies that. You could also make a list of a lot of 3* prospects lsu signed that had no business playing at this level.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:24 am to BayouTiga
I would rather have a 3 star kid who is committed to LSU, great character guy, works hard, get’s better, and is a solid contributor to the team than a 5 star kid who is a me first kid, is a great player but a team cancer and is gone in 2-3 years. BK will win with those type of kids.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 9:26 am
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:27 am to skullhawk
Yeah, you're correct. Do you think BK is recruiting at a high level right now? I do. He has 2 borderline 5* DL another top 100 one, one of the top WR and TE in the country and probably several guys who seem to be underrated on recruiting services right now.
What you're saying isn't wrong but it's not like LSU is taking scrubs that are 3*. You can see on film some of these guys are not going to sit at 3* by the end of the year. Recruiting services simply have not properly evaluated them. That said, you still need lots of project players in this class because there's no ship limit for LSU and we have huge holes on our depth chart. You need a mix of project players who will sit at LSU to develop and get depth+blue chips which they seem to be aiming at. We need a full 85 man roster.
Considering BK's heavy emphasis on Louisiana if he's taking OOS commits right now tells you he and the LSU scouting department are high on them. Probably agree when you look at the film for the 3* we have committed right now seems they're being severely underrated. His momentum in recruiting for next year's class right now looks even better than this one.
What you're saying isn't wrong but it's not like LSU is taking scrubs that are 3*. You can see on film some of these guys are not going to sit at 3* by the end of the year. Recruiting services simply have not properly evaluated them. That said, you still need lots of project players in this class because there's no ship limit for LSU and we have huge holes on our depth chart. You need a mix of project players who will sit at LSU to develop and get depth+blue chips which they seem to be aiming at. We need a full 85 man roster.
Considering BK's heavy emphasis on Louisiana if he's taking OOS commits right now tells you he and the LSU scouting department are high on them. Probably agree when you look at the film for the 3* we have committed right now seems they're being severely underrated. His momentum in recruiting for next year's class right now looks even better than this one.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:33 am to deuce985
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Yeah, you're correct. Do you think BK is recruiting at a high level right now? I do. He has 2 borderline 5* DL another top 100 one, one of the top WR and TE in the country
Yes. The majority of the class needs to be this.
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Guys who seem to be underrated on recruiting services
and not this
It's all a numbers game. I'm not calling you out specifically, but the idea that 3* prospects are better people, try harder, and are better teammates is backed up by nothing but hollywood underdog stories and not data.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:40 am to skullhawk
You're also relying on the recruiting services to say they have it right in evaluations this early on the 3* LSU has committed. It doesn't take NFL scouts to see several of these guys are not going to stay where they're at by the end of their senior year. I get the point you're making and I think you're right but I also believe if there ever was a time to not trust recruiting sites it's now. Their resources are split too much across all of them and ALL of them poorly scout areas like Louisiana. Stamps dominated LSU's camp which was loaded with blue chips. That should tell you all you need to know right there at them evaluating Louisiana players.
It doesn't look like it's any different than LSU classes in the past where they sat at top 5. Scrape 5* off the top loaded with all-american potential 4* blue chips behind them and back end of class is 3* project potential players.
It doesn't look like it's any different than LSU classes in the past where they sat at top 5. Scrape 5* off the top loaded with all-american potential 4* blue chips behind them and back end of class is 3* project potential players.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 9:42 am
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:43 am to deuce985
You don’t beat Alabama with 3 stars. That’s two three stars in row for LB room.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:49 am to deuce985
Think about this. BK worked out individually WRs Miller #7 in Louisiana and Parker #88 in Texas and chose to offer the 750th ranked player in the country in Parker over the more highly "rated" Miller. Time will tell who is the better player but I trust the evaluation process under BK over some sports reporter trying to sell their publications.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:50 am to machoman2020
wut 
You realize Atkins is a 2024 recruit right and that he's probably going to be a high 4* or higher by the time his evaluation comes?
I don't know how many times this needs to be said but if you look at a prospect's offer list it's the best indication of potential. Weeks has a great offer list and he stands out on film too not to mention Kirby Smart was pressing for him at Georgia. He's an All-American legacy so it stands to reason he has good bloodlines too alongside his brother.
Is offers the only indication? No, because recruits do fall through the cracks. That said, if you're getting a 3* that has top universities offering that recruit you should feel comfortable on their potential. The universities have way more resources than some random 247/on3 site. Stop paying attention to star ratings you don't understand.
You realize Atkins is a 2024 recruit right and that he's probably going to be a high 4* or higher by the time his evaluation comes?
I don't know how many times this needs to be said but if you look at a prospect's offer list it's the best indication of potential. Weeks has a great offer list and he stands out on film too not to mention Kirby Smart was pressing for him at Georgia. He's an All-American legacy so it stands to reason he has good bloodlines too alongside his brother.
Is offers the only indication? No, because recruits do fall through the cracks. That said, if you're getting a 3* that has top universities offering that recruit you should feel comfortable on their potential. The universities have way more resources than some random 247/on3 site. Stop paying attention to star ratings you don't understand.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:53 am to machoman2020
quote:you are obsessed with tackett Curtis. Did you shite on that five star line backer Harold Perkins last year? He’s in that linebacker room too you know. Your obsession with Curtis and the linebacker room is weird
You don’t beat Alabama with 3 stars. That’s two three stars in row for LB room.
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