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2010 Class Evaluation to this point...

Posted on 5/12/09 at 5:26 pm
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 5:26 pm
Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much lately, but I thought I would give my .02 at this point in the process with a little less than 1/2 the 2010 class full.

This is also in response to the "WEAK recruiting class" thread that was begun.

It's long, but I hope you all enjoy.

Since it seems as though Lee Chat. wants someone to be objective about the class then I will take a stab at things. I have been pretty good in the past about figuring out where a guy will end up in the rankings or his general value as a prospect overall (yes, I disagree from time to time with everyone...but thats part of the game of recruiting).

I normally lay off 'assigning' a personal ranking to a guy until I can get a better feel for the entire class nationally. But for now, I'll give my general consensus or every play committed thus far:

We'll start with the lowest ranked guys moving to the highest:

Jamarcus Hardrick-- He is a HUGE man at 6'7 coming out of a JUCO program. He has yet to be rated but is a sure fire 4 star when the time comes. If there is one thing I (and any LSU fan that follows recruiting) should know, it is the trust Les with the OL recruiting. Hardrick will be able to come in, in the following season and fill in from the start. I can see him being put at LG and then moving Barksdale over to LT to create a strong left side to run along. Nonetheless, he fills a major position of need.

Brandon Worle -- Without question, one of the best FB prospects in the country. FB is a definite position of need with only Dominic Allen being available in the fall. Worle will at least be a 5.7 FB in the end and could push for a 4th star. He's a sure fire player, that fills a position of need, with great athleticism. Plays with a mean streak and can catch the ball out of the backfield. He is everything you look for in a FB.

Nick Jacobs -- 5.6 3 star. This is a guy I have not been able to look at enough. However, from all reports from people that have seen him play basketball, he is a huge kid at 6-5--6-6 with great athleticism. There isn't a ton of video available with him, but at the WORST you have a 6'5 TE that can turn into a monster run blocking TE with some added weight (and if TE doesn't work out, he has the height to play OL). At the best you have the next Pettigrew (TE just drafted from OSU). More film will emerge from this kid as the year progresses. I think he will be a 5.7-5.8 3(3 or 4 star) when it is all said and done based purely on the athletic ability I have heard everyone praise.

D.J. Welter -- 5.7 3 star. I think he is ranked right where he belongs. I am not sold on DJ nearly as much as many of the people on the different boards I read. I think he could be a solid player, but I don't see "difference maker" written on him like I would like to see on LB's. LSU hasn't been able to get the big time LB in awhile, and I hope that changes in this class with Justin Maclin.

Luke Muncie -- 5.7 3 star LB. I was originally not that impressed with the first film I saw for Luke. Then I found out the film was actually his sophomore film and that completely changed my perception of the kid. I was later able to see some junior film and I am happy with this pickup now. I like his ability to read and react and as he has been praised across the boards, he seems to have good "closing speed." I see him being similar to Steltz except with a little more weight, and moving up as a OLB than a SS. I think he could have some big time potential as a OLB. OSU has had success at LB and if I remember correctly, he has an offer from them.

Tharold Simon -- 5.8 4 star. My first impressions of his film were "it was pretty good" vs. most people exclaiming about his ability. I've watched his film a couple more times and each time I seem to come away with a better impression. The main problem with him is that he is a true ATHLETE. I think he position will be sorted out over the course of the 2010 class with the commitments we get at other positions. I am indifferent on which position he plays at LSU...He is talented, but I think it will take him a couple years to contribute at either WR/SS because he'll have to refine his game technically. I'm up in the air on him though--could be a superstar, but I don't know if it'll be on Offense or D.

Justin Hunter-- 5.8 4 star. VASTLY UNDERRATED. He will be a top 100 kid by the end of his senior year. I believe that 100%. He has EVERYTHING you look for in a WR except maybe elite speed. His leaping ability is unlike almost anyone in football (no matter the level). at 6'4 with a legit 40" vertical the kid does not have a ceiling. He needs to add weight, but I think a solid RS year where he focuses on the weight room and refining his route running and you could have a Randy Moss caliber player. This is one of the biggest steals LSU has had in years IMO. By the way, the film available for him is from his sophomore year I believe...there are a couple clips from his game against Oscar Smith where he catches two TD passes about as effortlessly as I have seen from a highschool player.

Mike Davis -- 5.8 4 star. I recently read that he ran a 4.34. Even if this is hand timed, it would mean he runs a sub 4.5 so speed isn't as issue. I think he will translate into a player very similar to Early Doucet. Sure handed, makes a big play every now and then, but a dependable guy that will get it done on the field. I think most believe him to be vastly underrated. I think he is underrated some, but I do not see him being a top 100 player nationally. I'd say around the 110-140 range if I personally ranked him.

Eric Reid -- 5.9 4 star. #72 overall nationally on Rivals. I don't think I have to say much. He will eventually be the leader of the defense. Smart kid that knows the game and has the athletic ability to do anything you ask of him. Him at SS and Loston at FS will be a tandem that we are talking about for a long time. I could see him moving into the 40s with a good senior year. It is hard for Rivals to include intelligence and 'intangibles' in their rankings...but this kind has it.

So there is my take. Sorry it is long. I don't see how you can really be upset with that start unless the LB selections up to now disappoint you.

As long as we finish with at least one big time LB in this class then I feel like the position will be fine for the future. We don't need 3-4 freaks at LB every year like UF has done the past 3 years only 2-3 play and most play pretty early in there career and stick with the program for 4 years. If you can find one 'very good starting LB" out of every 3 you sign, then our LB corp will be fine. There are players called 'role' players...not everyone can be drafted.

Our WR crop this year is about as good as ever. I don't know who we finish it with. I hope Trovon is one of them, but the fourth spot could go to anyone. I think it will depend a lot on how the young guys develop during the year. If the young guys aren't doing so swell, then I would give Martavious Lee (JUCO) a serious look to get some immediate help at WR.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 5:31 pm to
The ball is in your court, Hidden Flask!!!
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

The ball is in your court, Hidden Flask!!!


This should get interesting
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 5:33 pm to
Thanks for the detailed post, Lynxcat. You seem to be very knowledgeable about recruiting both from LSU's standpoint as well as the national level, so I was wondering if you had heard anything more about Mike Davis taking some additional visits and/or decommitting from LSU since I have heard some rumblings about either scenario on here.

Thanks again.
This post was edited on 5/12/09 at 5:35 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 5:40 pm to
Keys,

At this point, I do not really have anymore information on Davis. I know everyone has been scared about losing his commitment from the moment he committed to the Tigers.

If LSU could get a commitment from Davis' teammate Corey Nelson (#39 in the nation, #3 OLB) then I think it would be a huge step in securing his commitment.

It would not surprise me at all if he decided to take another visit or two, but I would expect LSU to bring him in as his final visit and seal the deal. Time will tell, but with out of state guys you never know until they sign on the dotted line.

I feel fairly confident about his sticking. His comments about how he felt when he cross the MS River were some pretty strong feelings.
Posted by Charles Bronson
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

The ball is in your court, Hidden Flask!!!




Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 5:44 pm to
Yeah, based on those comments I didn't understand why everyone thought he was going to decommit, but then he says he wants to take trips to Florida and California.

Hopefully he will just enjoy the free trips and sign with LSU like Mingo. Getting Corey Nelson would also be excellent for several reasons.
Posted by gotiger
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 5:54 pm to
In response to Mike Davis, Tiger Rag recently had an article on him, and he said that he was comfortable with his commitment to LSU at this point. His mom believed that he committed too early and he simply said "its my decision". So, although I believe that there is still a chance he decommits over the next 9 months, I think as long as he continues to have good visits to camps and official visits at LSU we will be fine.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

lynxcat


Thanks, your posts are allways top-notched!
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 6:21 pm to
Thanks Lynx...
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 6:35 pm to
RACK HIM!!!!!!
Posted by tigerhack
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 7:29 pm to
these players are rated on last years performance and many of them will be upgraded when they start playing again. so the 3 and 4 star players will likely be moved to 4 and some 5 star players by the end of their senior season.
Posted by ShooterMcGavin
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 7:32 pm to
Good analysis lynx, I agree with your assessment of the class so far.

people criticizing the class so far need to look around the SEC so far, we are miles ahead of everyone except Florida, who likely ends up with the top overall class this year, and Bama, who currently has a comparable class to our own.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 7:42 pm to
Tigerhack, yes I understand what you stated, which is why I tried to provide evidence/my opinion as to where I think the current commits will be ranked by the end of the ranking process.

Shooter, I understand why you would want to compare where we currently sit vs. the rest of the conference, but be careful using that comparison across the board. I think it does apply in this instance, but unless you understand how each school is sitting with prospects that are 'locks' and who they are sitting good with, you can possibly over/under estimate your team's success.

Each team has it's own specific way about approaching the recruiting game...some play it slow at the beginning.

Overall, I do agree with you. LSU is on its way to another top 15 class. Too early to say whether it can be ranked in the top 10.


Posted by SNAPPERHEAD
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 8:23 pm to
Lynx, What is your opinion of the overall crop of 2010 recruits in Louisiana vs. the last few years?
Posted by Tiger Roux
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 8:33 pm to
Great Job Lynx..
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Lynx, What is your opinion of the overall crop of 2010 recruits in Louisiana vs. the last few years?


I think 2010 is looking better now than we originally thought. Trovon being the big headliner, but Reid and Vinson (you get an out of state Southern Cal offer and you can play some ball) are both very strong players as well.

I think some guys will emerge later in the process that will turn out to be solid players. Seems like every day a new guys name is being mentioned so I expect more of those to appear as the year goes on adding some depth to LA.

This year is very weak along the offensive and defensive lines so LSU will be going out of state for just about all of those players.

Pretty good year at WR/Secondary. Broadway and Munchie are two solid recruits are QB.

May not be the strongest ever, but I don't think this year is a slouch at all.

The lines are where the state really is struggling this year.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 9:10 pm to
Running back seems very weak as well which is a shame. It looks like LSU is going to go out of state for all of their guys this year (hopefully it can be Worle, Storm, and Seastrunk).
Posted by Cheetah Flex
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 10:10 pm to
storm will be a tiger imo
Posted by ShooterMcGavin
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Posted on 5/12/09 at 10:20 pm to
Lynn, I didn't mean to say other schools are recruiting poorly, just that it is extremely early in year, still for all those who think we are starting slowly. I just meant to compare our class currently in a numbers/quality argument for those who claim we are behind. Last year was great, but unusual in regards to our early recruiting pickups.

We look to be morw than halfway there at one of our big needs coming in, reciever. If we can get some quality dl and fill out the rest of the class with solid players and a couple of big names I will be happy.
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