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re: yeah, its cad again - (10x20 shed edition) UPDATE2: pg 3 - pretty much done!

Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:42 pm to
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CAD 60a will be plenty, split it over four individual breakers (or one 30 and two 25s) and you’ll have ample for lights and fans/outlets. I’ve never tripped a breaker on my 60a carport/kitchen and it’s got four at 25a each breakers
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:42 pm to
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Not only a deck on the barn doors side but wrap around to the house side, as well. Build it once and enjoy!
Thank you AI!

here's my first pass at the front deck; working on the side where the hot tub may live next

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:09 pm to
What is actually going into the shed? Table saw (and hopefully dust collection) isn't much, a 10x20 will get cramped pretty quickly. I am looking at 16x32 options, with a roll-up door/ramp on the side facing my house in addition to a regular 3-0.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:28 pm to
I would forego stairs there on your right side of the picture, and make basically wheelchair ramp. We did something similar at my grandmother's house 30 years ago when she had to go into a chair. You never know when you might have something on a handtruck or dolly that you are going to be cussing those stairs about.

Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:37 pm to
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I would forego stairs there on your right side of the picture, and make basically wheelchair ramp. We did something similar at my grandmother's house 30 years ago when she had to go into a chair. You never know when you might have something on a handtruck or dolly that you are going to be cussing those stairs about.


beautiful! love that! done!
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 2:38 pm to
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What is actually going into the shed? Table saw (and hopefully dust collection) isn't much, a 10x20 will get cramped pretty quickly. I am looking at 16x32 options, with a roll-up door/ramp on the side facing my house in addition to a regular 3-0.
the delivery guy said this was 10/10 difficult to manuever. I almost went with a 12x28 and he said he would not have been able to get it into position.

of course i'd love a bigger one but this will house my craftsmen tool cabinet, wood working tools, small lumber, etc. its not going to be a 'shed' for lawn equipment per se although i may move some in.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:13 pm to
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I would forego stairs there on your right side of the picture, and make basically wheelchair ramp. We did something similar at my grandmother's house 30 years ago when she had to go into a chair. You never know when you might have something on a handtruck or dolly that you are going to be cussing those stairs about.
update!

what do you think? the pad is for a hot tub, grilling, boiling crawfish..whatever. not sure what i'm going to do there yet but might as well do it now. concrete pad or trex?

at the movie night ai slop


This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 3:19 pm
Posted by TU Rob
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:40 pm to
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what do you think? the pad is for a hot tub, grilling, boiling crawfish..whatever. not sure what i'm going to do there yet but might as well do it now. concrete pad or trex?



If going hot tub, definitely concrete. I had Trex on my old deck and it will expand and contract like wood, and the weight of all that water sitting on top won't hold up as well as wood decking. Long story, but when we moved in the old deck was in need of an update, but we had baby #1 on the way. When she was old enough to start walking, my dad and I over the course of several weekends tore the old railings off, added new railings, and laid Trex boards over the old wood boards to freshen it up. The framing was fine, it was the dangerous railings and old faded wood. That lasted another dozen or so years until a pine branch fell and hit the house and blew out the railings. So we finally tore it all down and built a new deck in place, and this time I went with all wood because the pine needles and leave that fall all over it left stains in the Trex boards. Supposedly less maintenance than wood, but that was not my experience.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 3:43 pm to
Another thought, those 16x16 brick pavers would be a little less costly than having a pad poured, and easier to remove later if you wanted to. I had an old patio with those that we had below our old deck. I needed a parking spot when my oldest started driving, so I repurposed them for that.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 8:52 am to
If you pull that off or something similar you’ll never have to ask for advice again. That looks awesome on paper

I would definitely recommend a hard slab for the hot tub area vs a raised deck. A tub that big full of water weighs a lot more than you think. At 8lbs per gallon 300 gallons is 2400 lbs. you don’t want to have to engineer a raised platform for that
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 10:29 am to
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f you pull that off or something similar you’ll never have to ask for advice again. That looks awesome on paper


you say that, but i never seem to learn my lesson. here is my last trex project and i bugged my fellow H/G members RELENTLESSLY to finish it

LINK
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:34 am to
Not bagging on you but are you really going to stay in a hot tub long enough to get through an hour and a half plus movie?
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 11:36 am to
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are you really going to stay in a hot tub long enough to get through an hour and a half plus movie?



The local mosquitoes can't wait.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 3:42 pm to
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A tub that big full of water weighs a lot more than you think. At 8lbs per gallon 300 gallons is 2400 lbs. you don’t want to have to engineer a raised platform for that


tell me about it. I got mine 12ft in the air. way for expensive than I originally thought. most over engineered deck in the state.
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 2:31 pm to
Make sure you account for hot tub electrical. I did it all myself 240/60 and ran Thhn myself. That shite is thick.


Also might want to get rid of low rail and run stairs the length of deck. You can sit on stairs with a beer
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:00 am to
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Also might want to get rid of low rail and run stairs the length of deck. You can sit on stairs with a beer
good idea.. But too late. I was impatient so I bribed a couple baws with some beer and pizza to help me.






Gonna try to finish the bench today in time for Easter if my old arse body doesn't fall apart on me first.




ETA I love how I trust and use random H&G people's advice on every project

You baws haven't steered me wrong yet.

Eta2 before you ask yes the barn doors will clear the bench.. By a whopping 2"
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 7:10 am
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:19 am to
Gotdam that was quick. Great job dude.
That is going to be great
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:34 am to
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cgrand
I bought the 8 foot copper grounding rod and special drill bit while I was at home Depot as well. Wish me luck in the TN limestone I can drive that sucker in.

FiL is dropping off an extra panel he had to use in the shed today so that is next week's project.

I completely forgot I have an underground irrigation system that runs right up the hill between the shed and the house so I'm going to have to be really careful not to cut the line when buying the cable.

Realized it at like 2am a couple nights ago and stayed awake for 2 hours worrying about it.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:45 am to
Nice job.

ETA: I see another, lower deck for more space, in your future.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 11:50 am to
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I completely forgot I have an underground irrigation system that runs right up the hill
that’s good news. Run water to the shed and hook up a hose bibb
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