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What kind of grass is this and how do I get rid of it?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:47 am
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:47 am
I have Centipede lawn that is doing ok. Occasional spouts of lespedeza and other random weeds that pop up that are easily taken care of. However, I noticed a different type of grass starting to come in several years ago. It has slowly spread and is now covering over half my back yard. What kind of grass is this and is there a selective herbicide that will target it and not harm the centipede? Or would I be looking at a very targeted application of Roundup?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:54 am to The Next
I'd venture to guess that is Torpedo grass.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:13 pm to The Next
Sure looks like torpedo, though I’m not an expert. Did you happen to level your yard with river sand/silt in the past? If so, that could be the source.
If it is torpedo, the easiest way to get rid of it is to contact your real estate agent to list your house, then move somewhere else.
If it is torpedo, the easiest way to get rid of it is to contact your real estate agent to list your house, then move somewhere else.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:18 pm to Sir Saint
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If it is torpedo, the easiest way to get rid of it is to contact your real estate agent to list your house, then move somewhere else.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:26 pm to The Next
Torpedo. You don't.
Condolences
Condolences
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:44 pm to The Next
There's no getting rid of it, but for centipede you can apply sethoxydim 2 or 3 times over the course of a month or so and really knock it back. Then applying sethoxydim once a year is pretty effective.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 12:59 pm to Sir Saint
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Sure looks like torpedo, though I’m not an expert. Did you happen to level your yard with river sand/silt in the past? If so, that could be the source.
If it is torpedo, the easiest way to get rid of it is to contact your real estate agent to list your house, then move somewhere else.
Ain't that the truth.... Neighbor across the street got rid of his by spraying Roundup over the ENTIRE yard and starting over with sod.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 2:05 pm to Sir Saint
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torpedo
Dangit. I was afraid of that.
I didn't do any river silting myself but I wouldn't be surprised if the developer cut corners. Guess it will just be a pain in my arse until I move.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 2:10 pm to The Next
Torpedo grass can grow out of your arse too.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 2:18 pm to The Next
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I didn't do any river silting myself but I wouldn't be surprised if the developer cut corners. Guess it will just be a pain in my arse until I move.
I wouldn't say it was a developer cutting corners, it's amazing how many people, even in the dirt business have no clue about torpedo.
I had a guy who ran a dirt trucking company deliver topsoil to regrade my yard. I had a separate guy who ran a tractor service and did lots of this sort of work for my regrade. Neither of those guys had ever heard of torpedo grass. It took a slight bit of convincing and ultimately a "well, you're the customer...I guess" when I insisted on topsoil from a clean area, not river silt or "batture dirt."
Posted on 8/10/22 at 2:39 pm to The Next
In 2005 I got some river dirt hauled and sodded with emerald zoysia. I didn't know about TG back then. I had two spots emerge with TG. I'm lucky that's all there was. One spot by the road and one behind the house. After 17 years, I have two spots of TG. One spot by the road and one spot behind the house.
Over the years I've stayed on it and have never let up. It hasn't spread. Straight 41% Roundup rubbed on by hand only temporarily kills it. It always comes back. A couple times it even got kinda thick in the spot by the road. But right now, it's as close to eradication as I've been. Zoyisa is pretty tolerant of Drive XLR8 and Quincloric 75 that say they control TG. They certainly don't control it when used as directed. But I've been spot spraying with the Drive, and sprinkling the Quin 75 granules on it and around it while wet with Drive, to get a lasting effect and ground penetration through multiple rains. I think the sustained, uninterrupted attack is working/ Certainly better than anything else I've tried. I started that last year, and I only have two sprigs that came up by the road, and one sprig behind the house. They've been re-treated that way and are currently gone. But with TG, unless you go a few years without seeing any at all, I don't think you can really say you got it. But I think I will preemptively sprinkle the granules over the area in the fall and maybe again in the winter. I'm more encouraged than ever that it may be possible to end it. The zoysia does take a hit with this regimen, but not even as much as spot spraying with roundup, which TG laughs at. Unfortunately, I think with Drive and Quin75, you'd easily kill your centipede. I don't have centipede, so I'm not real familiar. But it seems there is something you can use on centipede for TG that Zoysia doesn't tolerate. I don't remember the name. It probably doesn't work when used as directed, but maybe using it along the lines of how I am, may help. But I have to say, if your whole yard looks like that, I don't think you'll ever get rid of it. I started with a much smaller distribution.
For the post above that said his neighbor killed with roundup and re-sodded- I can almost guarantee it will come back, unless maybe he sprayed it completely dead with several follow ups before re-sodding.
Edit: Google
In centipede lawns, you can use the herbicide sethoxydim (Vantage or Poast) to suppress torpedograss. It does not hurt centipedegrass if applied as directed. Repeated applications (at least three) through the summer will keep it suppressed -- not eradicated. If you ever stop spraying, it will come back.
Maybe some form of using that the way I've used Drive XLR8 and Quinclorac 75 may have a chance.
If I were trying to kill everything and start over, rather than use Roundup (guaranteed to come back imo), I'd go heavy and repeated with Drive and Quin75 and probably wait until well into the next spring to watch for re-emergence, before re-planting.
Over the years I've stayed on it and have never let up. It hasn't spread. Straight 41% Roundup rubbed on by hand only temporarily kills it. It always comes back. A couple times it even got kinda thick in the spot by the road. But right now, it's as close to eradication as I've been. Zoyisa is pretty tolerant of Drive XLR8 and Quincloric 75 that say they control TG. They certainly don't control it when used as directed. But I've been spot spraying with the Drive, and sprinkling the Quin 75 granules on it and around it while wet with Drive, to get a lasting effect and ground penetration through multiple rains. I think the sustained, uninterrupted attack is working/ Certainly better than anything else I've tried. I started that last year, and I only have two sprigs that came up by the road, and one sprig behind the house. They've been re-treated that way and are currently gone. But with TG, unless you go a few years without seeing any at all, I don't think you can really say you got it. But I think I will preemptively sprinkle the granules over the area in the fall and maybe again in the winter. I'm more encouraged than ever that it may be possible to end it. The zoysia does take a hit with this regimen, but not even as much as spot spraying with roundup, which TG laughs at. Unfortunately, I think with Drive and Quin75, you'd easily kill your centipede. I don't have centipede, so I'm not real familiar. But it seems there is something you can use on centipede for TG that Zoysia doesn't tolerate. I don't remember the name. It probably doesn't work when used as directed, but maybe using it along the lines of how I am, may help. But I have to say, if your whole yard looks like that, I don't think you'll ever get rid of it. I started with a much smaller distribution.
For the post above that said his neighbor killed with roundup and re-sodded- I can almost guarantee it will come back, unless maybe he sprayed it completely dead with several follow ups before re-sodding.
Edit: Google
In centipede lawns, you can use the herbicide sethoxydim (Vantage or Poast) to suppress torpedograss. It does not hurt centipedegrass if applied as directed. Repeated applications (at least three) through the summer will keep it suppressed -- not eradicated. If you ever stop spraying, it will come back.
Maybe some form of using that the way I've used Drive XLR8 and Quinclorac 75 may have a chance.
If I were trying to kill everything and start over, rather than use Roundup (guaranteed to come back imo), I'd go heavy and repeated with Drive and Quin75 and probably wait until well into the next spring to watch for re-emergence, before re-planting.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:23 pm to The Next
I am fighting TG in my centipede lawn right now. After many unsuccessful attempts, I decided to go nuclear and kill the entire area and reseed (about 1600 sf). Even after a full application of concentrated Glyphosate, I still had some surviving TG. I had to reapply a few times. Fortunately the TG grows much faster than the centipede, so I was able to see the sprouts of TG and spot treat as they rose above the rest of my lawn.
It’s been about 6 weeks since I first applied glyphosate and it seems like its 95% eradicated at this point and my new centipede is finally starting to fill in my yard. Good luck with your journey.. as others have said, it’s just about easier to move than completely get rid of it.
It’s been about 6 weeks since I first applied glyphosate and it seems like its 95% eradicated at this point and my new centipede is finally starting to fill in my yard. Good luck with your journey.. as others have said, it’s just about easier to move than completely get rid of it.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 8:12 pm to The Next
Torpedo grass. Easy to get rid of. Need to apply glyphosate to any areas where you see a single blade of it and go out an additional 2-3 feet. Come back 10 days later and apply again.
Come back after 5 more days and if it looks dead still, strip the drad grass to the soil and reseed or sod.
Come back after 5 more days and if it looks dead still, strip the drad grass to the soil and reseed or sod.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:35 pm to The Next
If you were in Texas with grass like that you would be the talk of the town right now.
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