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Posted on 4/11/21 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 4/11/21 at 3:19 pm to
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Soak the seeds in full strength bleach for a hour before planting..


I've never heard of that before. I'll give it a try but first I have to go buy new seeds since I used all the ones I saved from last years crop.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:02 pm to
Has anyone used that Alaskan fish fertilizer? I remember it being brought up once. I found a gallon of it at tractor supply so decided why not.

It’s got to work good because it stink to high heaven!

My tomatoes are finally recovering from the nitrogen deficiency when I had them in pots. Okra, beans, cucumbers, and watermelon have all sprouted.

Peppers are taking their sweet arse time growing. Feels like they haven’t grown at all since transplanting them 4 weeks ago.
This post was edited on 4/11/21 at 7:05 pm
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2291 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:15 pm to
I use the fish fertilizer as a supplemental fertilizer in between my big doses. Seems to do well for me

My peppers are going super slow as well. My potted ones are growing faster than the few I have in the garden
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:17 pm to
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Has anyone used that Alaskan fish fertilizer? I remember it being brought up once.


That was me that brought it up. It’s all I’ve been using. I’m sold on it. Seems to be good stuff.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:22 pm to
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just got back from fishing out of the country for 9 days.


Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:07 pm to
we normally make two trips a year to the Bahamas to bonefish. Cancelled/postponed 5 times last year because of covid. Finally made it happen and it was a great time.

Another note, I am trying something a bit different this year. I normally pinch the first flowers off of my pepper plants to let the plants focus on growing instead of fruit production. I didn’t do that this year because the timing with my planting out didn’t really work out. A couple of my pepper plants already have huge peppers on them. The plants do seem a bit smaller than normal but I’m not certain it’ll matter in the long run.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:25 am to
I tried something different this year. I did not start my seeds until the last week of February. Kept them warm inside and they grew well. I planted outside later than normal, probably mid March. They are growing up a storm.
Peppers, cucumbers and squash are just taking off. Tomatoes too. Beans are three feet up the trellis.

My only issue is that my baby bok choys are trying to bolt. I am going to plant my seeds later every year. Less hassle moving them in and out of the sun for hardening.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:29 am to
Fence box with peppers. From left to right, these are habanero, hot banana, three jimmy nardello, and one big jalapeno.



Little Fred's TD tomato:



Tomatoes. The bigger ones closer to camera are Large Barred Boar. There are a good bit of baby tomatoes on these.



Big Jalapeno that needed a spot:



Zephyr Squash and Tiger Zucchini:





Carmen Peppers:



Islander Peppers. These ripen to a really cool orange/red color.



Peppers:



Whole box:






This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 9:30 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:47 am to
Baw leaves the country for 9 days and his garden is kicking all our asses.

Looks great!

ETA: what’s that in the middle of your bottom fence box? Is that dill?
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 11:49 am
Posted by DumpsterFire
Member since Sep 2012
1452 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:55 pm to
Good looking pictures! I am always jealous about how much farther along y'all are than I am in central AR.

I just planted my 4x8 raised bed yesterday. Cherry tomatoes, okra, cucumbers, and jalepenos. I scaled back on the number of plants this year. I always think I can plant more until the plants get to be full size!

My blueberries are doing really well and have tons of flowers on them. I'm going to post some pictures in the next couple of weeks.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5829 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:48 pm to
Haha just give my tomatoes a week and they'll have septoria or something stupid. My pickling cucumbers (little leaf, first time trying them) are also not taking off at all for some reason. They may be a flop. If they don't take off in a week or so I'm going to replace them with my hodgepodge Ukrainian seeds.

Yep. The middle of the bottom box is dill. I trimmed my basil back the day before I left and it hasn't really recovered. Not sure why. Maybe the cold .
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34708 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:20 pm to
Nothing pisses basil off more than cold. Garden looks great.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44128 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 6:34 pm to
Oh look, it's my garden a month in to the future.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2789 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:36 pm to
Well, I just thought my garden was looking good. Wow, great looking gardens! Mine is coming along but nowhere near like that. A couple of the potatoes are starting to bloom. The sugar snaps and snow peas are coming to an end. I would say that experiment was a success. Though I may not plant them again. They are delaying my green beans, cucumbers, and squash going in while they finish up. My tomatoes have quite a few babies growing but my peppers have just started to grow after weeks of being in the ground.
Posted by RiseUpATL
Member since Sep 2018
2214 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:43 am to
Can someone recommend a good fertilizer to use periodically after the plants are in the ground?
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2291 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:19 am to
Fish emulsion every 10-12 days or so and a strong fertilizer maybe 2-3 times a season depending on what you are growing. Something a little higher in Nitrogen early to promote growth. Once they start flowering use something higher in Phosphorus and Potash after your plant has established nice growth. You can use anything. Plants don't know the difference. Compost tea is a solid supplemental fertilizer and easy to make
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:33 am to
Once the plants start flowering I use Urban Farms’ Texas tomato food and find that it works really well. It’s probably no better than any other balanced NPK fertilizer but it is convenient to measure (1 tbsp/gallon). Prior to the plants setting fruit, I had Urban Farms’ standard vegetable fertilizer. Both are technically organic I think, so there is little harm in overdoing it.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15713 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:57 am to
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Something a little higher in Nitrogen early to promote growth. Once they start flowering use something higher in Phosphorus and Potash after your plant has established nice growth.


It’s hard to promote a specific brand or type of fertilizer without knowing your soil chemistry. But this is a great thumb rule.
Posted by RiseUpATL
Member since Sep 2018
2214 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:20 am to
Thank you! I’m installing a drip irrigation system this year to set on a timer to help me with watering. The last couple of years I haven’t had the time to waste staring outside watering so my tomatoes suffered greatly and my plants just didnt take off with lack of water. Excited to get this setup and hopefully lead to a more fruitful yield this year.
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:00 am to
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Fish emulsion


Little rant about Fish Fertilizer after I listened to a Joe Gardener podcast on fertilizers.... traditionally the benefits of organic fertilizer is that they provide a slow feed and improve soil health. Fish fertilizer, as any other liquid form fertilizer, provides only a quick feed and it's not providing some of the benefits of solid-form organic fertilizer. Also, it's really a super expensive form of Nitrogen, and I don't know if there's any benefits from it compared to say Miracle Gro.

And another note only because I just watched Seaspiracy on Netflix, there are some manufacturers that use fish waste/scraps and byproducts of fishing industry to make their fertilizer (ex: Neptune's brand), but there are some that go out and fish from the sea for the sole purpose of making fish emulsion (ex: Alaska brand). Just maybe want to keep that in mind if you have a choice of brands to choose from. Those were only 2 brands on podcast that they guy could think of, so i'm not sure about the others, just that Alaska brand is everywhere.
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