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Stripping Paint, Sanding, and Re-finishing Cyprus Cabinets

Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:41 am
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:41 am
Anyone have experience with this? I've began the part of stripping the paint, now I'm about to move into sanding and re-finishing but wanted to get some advice on this first to make a better finished product.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 10:32 am to
Go with the grain, start at a low grit like 60 and work up to a high grit like 120. That's pretty much it.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 11:46 am
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 10:48 am to
Will I need to stain or put some type of coating on there?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:10 am to
After its sanded? Yeah, you'll need to protect it somehow. Stain, then a couple of coats of polyurethane would be my choice probably. The stain doesnt really protect it much, just makes it look pretty. The poly is what protects it. If you want a natural look you can go with a neutral stain, then add the poly.

You can paint it again if you are wanting it to match with a room or something in the room.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 11:38 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:12 am to
Stain is easy, just take a brush and brush it on an area, then immediately wipe off with an old rag. You can also use a rag to apply and another rag to wipe off.

Just be careful with the brush and dont drip on an area you arent gonna immediately brush over and wipe up. If a drip stays there too long it will stain it too much and it will show when you are done.

If you do drip on it and let it sit too long, just take some sandpaper and sand the spot til it's a light color again.

After you are done staining and it has dried a day or two. Come back and lightly sand it with like a 120 grit or higher.. then wipe it down with a tacky cloth to get the dust off . Then brush on a coat of polyurethane, let dry overnight. Then lightly sand again, wipe down, and apply another coat of poly. You can do a third coat. But I usually stop at two.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 11:35 am
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 12:11 pm to
Thanks, all great information.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 12:17 pm to
Oh and a note on your stain rags, when you are done spread them out on the grass, driveway, etc and let them dry a day or so. Dont just wad them up and throw in the trash. They can catch fire. I've seen it!
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 12:46 pm
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 12:54 pm to
Yes, I explained this to my wife yesterday. I had a friend who's mom burned their house down this way.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1583 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:09 pm to
don't use any sandpaper under 150 for cypress. Unless you like swirls and scratches. 60 and 80 are huge mistakes with cypress.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:17 pm to
You might want to go with some higher grits like 150-180 for finishing.


But good luck getting leftover paint off with 150 grit.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 1:42 pm
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9774 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 2:42 pm to
Left over paint is preferred by some people. It gives it an aged look.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 2:52 pm to
It can look ok if that's the look you are going for.

It can also look like shite and that someone half arse did the refinish job.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15009 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Anyone have experience with this?


I've built a LOT of stuff out of cypress and some naturally finished, some stained and some pickled.

First off, once the paint is removed, use a damp rag to wipe off the wood surface to get as much of the stripper residue off as possible.

Let the wood dry thoroughly then sand. And to the person that said use 60 grit to start----HELL NO. That is way too coarse a grit. Start with no heavier than 120 and get things smooth.

Then if wanting to stain, I'd recommend using a "piss coat" of shellac which is 2 parts denatured alcohol and 1 part shellac. Mix well and apply this to the wood. It dries in no time at all as the alcohol evaporates and then sand with 220 to get it slick.

Clean off the surfaces of the wood to remove the dust and then stain. The shellac will allow the stain to penetrate more evenly than just applying it over bare wood. Stain will absorb into soft wood much faster than harder areas of the woods surface. After applying some stain, wipe it off until you get the desired color, but remember once you apply poly it will darken a bit.

After the stain is dried, then apply your poly or whatever clear coat finish you wish to use. After the first coat dries, sand with 220 or finer paper---or even 0000 steel wool and be careful around corners, mouldings and ogee edges to not take a lot off and expose bare wood again. Then apply as many coats as you desire for your final finish.
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:13 am to
That is a lot of good information. Another question I have is, if the wood is a little different shade in some areas from removing the paint off the wood, once I apply these coats and stain, will it look more even in color?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15009 posts
Posted on 8/27/19 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

That is a lot of good information. Another question I have is, if the wood is a little different shade in some areas from removing the paint off the wood, once I apply these coats and stain, will it look more even in color?


Applying the "piss coat" of shellac will help a lot in evening out the stain and making it look more uniform.

If you don't do that step there is a very good chance the softer grained areas of cypress will take the stain much darker than the harder grained areas.


ETA: I would recommend taking off the doors to apply the finishes. Just make sure to either number them or mark them in some way to be able to put them back in the same order as taken off. It is much easier to get the piss coat and stain on the wood more evenly when they are lying flat as opposed to being up on the cabinets.

The piss coat of shellac is very runny and will drip if applied to the doors while up. Just use a cheap throwaway brush or a lint free rag to apply it.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2785 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:15 pm to
Be careful with steel wool. It is not recommended for several types of poly.
Posted by fullstrut
Madison, Ms
Member since Apr 2019
31 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:33 pm to
What kind of look are you going for? Is this antique cypress or new cypress? I wouldn't sand with anything coarser than 120, to start with, and I also wouldn't go any higher than 150/180 on cypress. Cypress doesn't stain well, so be prepared for that, you can use a wood conditioner (50/50 denatured alcohol/shellac) then lightly sand prior to applying stain.

What you refinish with needs to depend on it's use.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36773 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 8:35 pm to
After sanding wipe down with TSP. It's very cheap and helps get rid of anything that may have previously penetrated the wood such as a grease, etc. Let dry well before painting.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3700 posts
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:00 pm to
Cabinets we did put 4 coats polyurethane,sanded with progressively finer sandpaper,last coat we used brown paper bag for final sanding.
Posted by threeputtforbogie
Member since Sep 2017
829 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 10:07 am to
Stuff like that is why I always watch a few Youtube videos that cover my project. I learn so many important facts that I would never had known had I just blindly gotten started.
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