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Siding experts needed

Posted on 2/18/25 at 7:43 am
Posted by JL
Member since Aug 2006
3166 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 7:43 am
The caulk between my siding is worn out and my siding is starting to absorb water it looks like. Do I just need to recaulk and repaint?

Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3967 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:00 am to
That looks like unpainted hardieboard on a newer house
(Pre painted) trash

Wash , caulk and paint all
Posted by Cage Fighter Trainee
Member since Aug 2024
110 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:36 am to
The butt joints should not be caulked on cement board siding for this very reason. They should have also staggered your joints better but it's too late for that.
A lot of people still caulk the joints, I think Hardie actually recommended it at first but that's no loner the case. If you were to re-caulk and paint make sure to use a permanently flexible elastomeric caulk.
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
4955 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:02 pm to
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The butt joints should not be caulked on cement board siding for this very reason.


That is correct. You use sealant on the seams that meet up to trim, but not on butt joints. You are supposed to field paint those butt ends before installation so they don’t soak up water, but hardly any of the jackleg installers do so. The butt joints should also be flashed to prevent water getting behind the course(s) beneath (see illustration below). I used 30# felt, but they make other options that are no more effective. Once again, most installers skip this step, as they don’t want silly shite like effectiveness getting in the way of speed.





ETA: I’ve seen many painters caulk the underside seam of hardie that laps over the course below. If you ever see someone doing this, slap them on the head.

This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 3:05 pm
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1173 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 3:11 am to
Vertical butts joints on Hardie should only be caulked where siding meets corner trim I believe.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43086 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 6:27 am to
you got a mess there buddy.
is the house even painted that looks like naked siding

and all the guys above are correct...no caulk on hardie siding except where the horizontal siding meets vertical trim. not at the butts, not under the laps. we see this all the time. and never let installers caulk at the trim, have the painters do it
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 7:19 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11184 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 11:35 am to
concrete siding ought to be outlawed. It is turning out to be a LOUSY product....
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1418 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:37 pm to
Cementious siding?

Worlds better than the Masonite crap it replaced.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11184 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:23 am to
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Cementious siding?

Worlds better than the Masonite crap it replaced.



This is true as rain....but garbage is still garbage.

I have been a pretty big advocate for "hardie" type siding. That was before I saw what happens to it in a tropical storm. Not good. Given that the manufacturers installation guidelines are never followed even by "certified" installers I would be hesitant to use it. Just me.

Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1418 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:47 am to
I don’t doubt you have good reasons for saying that. What have you noticed?
I’ve installed quite a bit of Hardi and never saw a product failure. I have seen shoddy workmanship on installs that caused other problems.
I do hate seeing “wavy” walls.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11184 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 11:03 am to
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I don’t doubt you have good reasons for saying that. What have you noticed?
I’ve installed quite a bit of Hardi and never saw a product failure. I have seen shoddy workmanship on installs that caused other problems.
I do hate seeing “wavy” walls.


So it has always been fine in our area....until Helene and now many homes have some serious siding damage that is almost unnoticeable (lifted pieces. cracks, seams opened) and many people do not know that they have a problem and of course insurance ain't telling them and contractors are focused on one day roofing jobs and not interested in a week long siding and painting gig....

It is warrantied against almost anything BUT hurricanes. Because it is so brittle once it starts moving a little it does a LOT of damage....
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
4955 posts
Posted on 2/21/25 at 6:15 am to
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garbage is still garbage.


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the manufacturers installation guidelines are never followed


Isn’t that more of an indictment on the installers? I’m certainly not white knighting for James Hardie, but there’s a long list of good, dependable building products that turn to shite when not installed correctly.
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