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Section of brick is loose, needs to be re-tied
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:00 am
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:00 am
Anyone ever had this done? We're looking at purchasing a home and the biggest item that came up during the inspection was that one area of the exterior brick looks like it's come untied/a tie was missed during construction. I've looked online at some of these helical tie fixes where they drill through the mortar, install a bit to refasten it and patch the mortar. Has anyone ever had this done and can shine some light on cost and durability?
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:04 am to Ingeniero
Sure it's not the whole house with just one section showing failure?
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:10 am to ItzMe1972
The inspector didn't seem to think so. Said it looked much more like there was an issue with the tie rather than a structural issue of the house. I can have a contractor/mason look at it to be sure though
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:43 am to Ingeniero
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contractor/mason
Or structural engineer.
While the inspector may be right, I'd hate to miss on a structural issue that becomes a bigger problem down the line.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:14 am to Puffoluffagus
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Or structural engineer.
I wouldn't bring out a structural engineer for a loose piece of hardie or vinyl siding. It's 2020, long gone are the days of houses being built with structural Norwegian brick. It is merely an exterior veneer.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:28 am to MoarKilometers
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It is merely an exterior veneer.
Which can cost a arm and leg to fix.
OP, you need someone that knows more about brick veneer for a inspection. There is really no easy fix for long term.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:52 am to fishfighter
Just get a good, competent brick mason to look at it.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 11:15 am to Ingeniero
How big a section are we talking? Is it just a brick veneer that wiggles a little bit? If so, just live with it. It's not going to hurt anything. I'm not sure how you could install those tie back anchors anyway if you have a stud wall house. How would you know where to drill to hit the studs?
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:18 pm to Ingeniero
I've never used to helical ties but have used the old school ties you screw into a stud that have a screw cap against the exterior brick. Those work great but you do have a visible cap and you have to find the stud. Once you find one stud the next is easy to find. The helical ties also screw into the stud (or cmu block if you have that) so you have to find it but the guys who do this are good at finding that 2x4. The helicals are nearly invisible once finished.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 12:26 pm to Zappas Stache
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The helical ties also screw into the stud (or cmu block if you have that) so you have to find it but the guys who do this are good at finding that 2x4.
How are they finding an 1.5” stud thru a brick wall? Generally curious. Obviously if you had a cmu wall behind the brick it would be easy to do...
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:19 pm to LSUballs
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How are they finding an 1.5” stud thru a brick wall? Generally curious. Obviously if you had a cmu wall behind the brick it would be easy to do...
Hopefully whomever nailed up to the vapor/moisture barrier wasn't a jackass and followed the nail pattern in the sheathing. You can feel a nail through house wrap, but not feel them through something heavier like felt.
I will totally own up to indiscriminately slap stapling house wrap though I normally make a pencil mark below the sill plate, on the slab, and up above the top plate in the brick pocket/soffits area, at the middle of my studs. You learn this lesson the hard way though lol.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 1:23 pm to fishfighter
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Which can cost a arm and leg to fix.
True story. Can't tell you how many pneumatic air chisels I've gone through cleaning up brick to be reused. Easily one of the things I hated most about remodeling. Still cheaper for me (actually a labor ready grunt) to do it than paying my masons.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 3:23 pm to Ingeniero
No one is going to recommend to do the giant threaded bolt with a steel plate and nuts on either end like in the French Quarter?
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