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Posted on 4/23/20 at 9:23 pm to 3oliv3
If it’s St Aug then you should top dress with peat moss.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 10:21 pm to ronk
I’m debating between sand and peat moss or some kind of mixture. I’ve got some low depressions in the yard and some old mower ruts that make push mowing the yard a little bumpy
Thoughts? I haven’t measured but I’m guessing I’ll need to add several inches in spots (maybe over several applications) to get it all smooth.
Thoughts? I haven’t measured but I’m guessing I’ll need to add several inches in spots (maybe over several applications) to get it all smooth.
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 9:14 am to jimbeam
I wouldn't do several inches of peat moss. It's not really good for rooting. You can get really crazy and do a peat, sand, and soil mixture.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:18 am to ronk
quote:Where do you get 33-3-6 and what's the product name? Thx
April-33-3-6 and spot treat with msm.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:42 am to The Mick
Bonus crop fertilizer in Greenville, Tx and it doesn’t have a name. It’s just a yellow bag with 33-3-6 on it
Posted on 4/28/20 at 12:39 pm to jimbeam
quote:
I’ve got some low depressions in the yard and some old mower ruts that make push mowing the yard a little bumpy
go with a 70/30 mix of sand and potting soil.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 4:08 pm to ronk
I'm just bumping this thread since I have it bookmarked. I was trying to follow the Randy Lemon program but referencing Ronk and CrawDude too.
It has fertilizer going out some time now. I have Zoysia and St. Aug. Should I shoot for something lower than the 33-3-6? His recs. don't have N above 20.
It has fertilizer going out some time now. I have Zoysia and St. Aug. Should I shoot for something lower than the 33-3-6? His recs. don't have N above 20.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:55 pm to TheWiz
It’s all in application rate. 2lbs of 33 per thousand applies less N than 4lbs of 25. However, lower N is more forgiving. I like 16-0-8 or 25-3-5 on those grasses. Craw can give the specifics on a 24% N from Siteone
Posted on 6/19/20 at 7:23 pm to ronk
quote:
Craw can give the specifics on a 24% N from Siteone
The Site One Landscape Supply in Baton Rouge carries 2 lawn fertilizers in stock. LESCO 24-2-11 and LESCO 15-5-15. I’ve been using 24-2-11 on a centipede front yard and a St Aug back yard. Centipede receives a 1/2 lb N per 1000 sq ft, St Aug 1 lb N per 1000 sq ft, per LSU AgCenter recommendations. .
The application rate for the 24-2-11 to provide 1 lb N per 1000 sq ft is 4 lbs per 1000 sq ft. If applying 1/2 lb N per 1000 sq ft then apply 2 lbs per 1000 sq ft of 24-2-11. Divide the %N on the fertilizer bag for whatever fertilizer you choose to use into 100 to give the application rate for 1 lb of N per 1000 sq ft and divide the %N on the bag into 50 for the application rate of 1/2 lb N per 1000 sq ft.
Use 1 lb of N per 1000 sq ft on your St Aug, and from what I gather from other posters who have discussed with Dr Ron Strahan, turf and weed Extension Specialist and Professor, LSU AgCenter, you should apply 1/2 lb N per 1000 sq ft on the Zoysia to mitigate thatch accumulation.
Randy Lemmon is based out of Houston Texas, and he recommends products of his sponsors of his radio program and web site, nothing wrong with that. He was at one time an ag journalist for Texas A&M extension service and I’m sure many, if not most, of his recommendations are based on Texas A&M turf research.
One of the advantages of applying lawn fertilizers in the “teens” for N, vs a 33-X-X, is you physically spread more material out onto the lawn per 1000 sq ft so you are likely insuring you are getting good, uniform coverage of fertilizer over the entire lawn, whereas with a more concentrated fertilized, if you don’t have your spreader set just right, you might over apply and under apply in sections of the lawn.
I hope this helps and I haven’t confused you any more than when you asked your question
Take home message: find a lawn fertilizer in the teens or 20s for N, and adjust the application rate to provide 1/2 or 1 lb N per 1000 sq ft. You may have better luck finding these at retail garden centers, feed & seed stores, hardware stores, maybe Tractor Supply, vs the big box stores.
This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:40 pm to CrawDude
Ok. Yeah. For my April fert. I used a Fertilome 15-5-10. It was easy to get and obviously easy to use.
That does make sense about not juicing it too much to avoid thatch. My grass guy bags every other week and I find myself raking or blowing clipping bunches on the non-bag weeks.
That does make sense about not juicing it too much to avoid thatch. My grass guy bags every other week and I find myself raking or blowing clipping bunches on the non-bag weeks.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:05 pm to TheWiz
Sounds like you are ready for an another fertilization. I used the Fertilome products for years and was happy with them, I just happened across the Site One in my area and starting using them as I could get more product per $ spent.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 10:38 pm to CrawDude
Thanks for the help. I watered this evening. Gonna fert. tomorrow and water Sunday.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 11:02 pm to ronk
Everything I do is to enhance the prairie I live on. Let nature take it's course, pull the invasive stuff and encourage the natural stuff.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 7:26 am to ronk
quote:Yo Gronk - I didn't do the 33-3-6 in July. Is it too late for that now, or should I go with 5-0-20 at this point? (centipede). Is it too hot to apply these now?
July-33-3-6 spot treat with Celsius
August-nothing for lawn. Top choice for insects.
September-5-0-20
Thank you sir.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 7:55 am to The Mick
This is bumping an old thread. What grass type do you have and where are you located? What have you already done this year.
FYI my program has changed since 2020.
FYI my program has changed since 2020.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:02 am to ronk
Centipede lawn. I'm in Mandeville LA
Haven't done a whole lot, but did premergent back in January'ish I think and I forget which product (maybe Barricade). Then spot treated with Celcius end of June and again a couple weeks ago. Virginia buttonweed was main issue but Celcius has done well on it. I might've done a scotts weed n feed in spring but I cant recall...
Trying to get organized now.
Haven't done a whole lot, but did premergent back in January'ish I think and I forget which product (maybe Barricade). Then spot treated with Celcius end of June and again a couple weeks ago. Virginia buttonweed was main issue but Celcius has done well on it. I might've done a scotts weed n feed in spring but I cant recall...
Trying to get organized now.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 8:04 am
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:10 am to ronk
October - Prodiamine (half annual app)
Feb - Prodiamine (1/4 app)
March - Prodiamine (1/4 app)
April - Lesco Fert
July - Lesco Fert
August/Sept - if Armyworms/webworms are present, Anderson’s Duocide
If fungal disease present, DiseaseEx
Feb - Prodiamine (1/4 app)
March - Prodiamine (1/4 app)
April - Lesco Fert
July - Lesco Fert
August/Sept - if Armyworms/webworms are present, Anderson’s Duocide
If fungal disease present, DiseaseEx
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:59 am to ronk
6 acres
20 mature pecan tree
13 old live oaks
My program is….
Rain / wind, pick up branches and cut grass every week.
20 mature pecan tree
13 old live oaks
My program is….
Rain / wind, pick up branches and cut grass every week.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:32 am to ronk
quote:
FYI my program has changed since 2020.
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