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Posted on 4/25/22 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5568 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 4:40 pm to
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my new pool is 11 days old. Yesterday was its 7th gallon of acid



Salt & Gunite? Gunite pools have high pH when they are new. Salt pools typically require more muriatic acid to control the pH as well. I don't have salt but my gunite pool pH leveled off after about 6-8 months. I rarely tend to it anymore.
Posted by Htown Tiger
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:56 pm to
Been a pool owner almost a year now. First few months were great, then ran into high CYA due to the shock I was using, and that sucked. Screws up a lot of your other chemicals, and basically only way to fix it is to drain and refill. Now that I'm past that, haven't had too many issues. I shock about once every couple of weeks, and lately have been adding acid to lower PH some (it seems to slide upwards to). Otherwise, just keeping the chlorine discs in and check chemical readings about once a week.

How often do you guys scrub down all your walls and steps?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56254 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:07 am to
Yeah. New Gunite. And it was the fifth. I was wrong. Seems it is leveling off a little. It was a little low last check.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78036 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:12 am to
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I shock about once every couple of weeks


you know you can just buy a few gallons of liquid chlorine and do the same thing without adding CYA to the water. maybe costs a little more with inflated bleach prices right now but this is a no-brainer if you need to super chlorinate your water in a hurry.

also, do you have alot of organic matter falling into your pool or something? you shouldn't need to constantly shock your pool unless you're not getting all the algae out before you let the chlorine levels drift back to normal.
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 8:13 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 9:02 am to
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DIY, start by buying this testing kit: TF Pro
you dont have to get the pro you can get the TF-100 - $89
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78036 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 9:29 am to
or you can get that $20 test strips kit i posted that give you the same results as playing chemist.

i have the TF Pro kit and it used to be my gold standard until i started comparing the results with the dip strip.

15 seconds vs at least 30 minutes to an hour of mixing chemicals, counting drops, playing swirly twirly mixey, needing direct sun to look through the special clear base to see if the CYA matches and hoping your eyes aren't deceiving you... No thank you.

quote:

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This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 9:31 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14443 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 9:35 am to
I use the strips. However, I am interested in the water guru.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78036 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 9:39 am to
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I use the strips. However, I am interested in the water guru.
i'm not poo-poo-ing on TFP or their advice in any way. They are the best when it comes to maintaining your pool.

I just don't have the time to fool with that test kit these days. Too many other things going on and the wife would lose her shite while it looked like i was sitting by the pool for an hour playing chemist.

I can't say i blame her.
Posted by dafuqusay
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
769 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 10:14 am to
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just keeping the chlorine discs

You know those have CYA in them also, right?
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5568 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 10:57 am to
This page is your friend (troublefreepool.com)
quote:

then ran into high CYA due to the shock I was using, and that sucked. I shock about once every couple of weeks,

There is no need to use shock at all. The only shock i've ever used is the stuff my pool builder left me when the pool was completed. I used it sparingly over time until it was empty. You only need to use liquid chlorine to manage your chlorine levels.
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and lately have been adding acid to lower PH some (it seems to slide upwards to).

Water features (bubblers, deck jets, fountains, etc) will increase pH. If my ph gets low, I turn on my water features and it will go back to 7.6. If I run the water features a lot, I will need to use a little muriatic acid to bring pH down.
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Otherwise, just keeping the chlorine discs in and check chemical readings about once a week.

The 'discs' have CYA and will raise those levels as well. If my CYA gets low, i use tablets to raise it. In two years, I've used less than one bucket of chlorine tablets. Testing weekly is a must in my opinion. I try to test more often, but that isn't always realistic. But I've had my chlorine levels go from 6.0 to 0.0 in a week b/c my cya was low. It's caused the only algae blooms I've had to deal with and I'm still pissed about it.
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How often do you guys scrub down all your walls and steps?

My dolphin runs daily and it scrubs the walls, seat, and waterline tile. I manually brush the spa and ledge weekly. Sometimes more often depending on the weather, pollen, etc
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:03 pm to
ill try them out, and if you say they are accurate, they dont look precise. So a novice wouldnt know how much chemical to add.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56254 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:04 pm to
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i'm not poo-poo-ing on TFP or their advice in any way. They are the best when it comes to maintaining your pool.
I agree. But I know a good many folks that keep really nice pools and they dont do any testing except some chlorine and ph. Any problems keeping those in check they take the water to the local place and they do what they say.

I am going to keep liquid chlorine, acid, and ash on hand and just go from there.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56254 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:25 pm to
I say all that in the above post and when I checked this morning in my 2 week old pool my chlorine was dead on and PH too high. Added a gallon of acid waited three hours and retest and my Ph is dead on and I am showing almost no chlorine.

I quit.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16484 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 12:47 pm to
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ill try them out, and if you say they are accurate, they dont look precise. So a novice wouldnt know how much chemical to add.


I bought some test strips the other day, also Aquacheck I beleive, and there is an app to download to your phone. Take a pic of the test strip, then upload it to the app, enter in the gallons of your pool, and it spits out the amount of chemicals to add
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:17 pm to
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I bought some test strips the other day, also Aquacheck I beleive, and there is an app to download to your phone. Take a pic of the test strip, then upload it to the app, enter in the gallons of your pool, and it spits out the amount of chemicals to add

i know how it works.... the full titration set wll get you specific ppms. looks like this will only get you "in the ballpark" depending on how far you are off this could be a great difference in the amount of chems needed to add.... but it does seem that these will be nice for weekly tests while doing a full test every month or so will stiil be useful.

i build a pool automation panel and about to add automated chlorine additions.
This post was edited on 4/26/22 at 2:18 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16484 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:44 pm to
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but it does seem that these will be nice for weekly tests while doing a full test every month or so will stiil be useful.



That's pretty much what I do
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2035 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 2:47 pm to
New pool owner having just gone through pool school. We have a gunite salt pool that's 15,700 gallons. I really appreciate everyone's advice in this thread.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78036 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:25 pm to
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ill try them out, and if you say they are accurate, they dont look precise. So a novice wouldnt know how much chemical to add.
right, biggest drawback is if you're doing a SLAM you won't know the level of chlorine over 20. I think you are supposed to keep it around 25 to avoid bleaching the liner so from that standpoint, the strips wont help. Also it gives you a 'range' on the CYA and not a specific number.

Good nonetheless if your pool isn't terribly out of balance to keep an eye on things like CYA if you have to run tabs for awhile, for instance.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16192 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 3:52 pm to
Here's a little tip as well...if you need to increase water hardness I buy the Calcium Chloride in bulk from Home Depot instead of the pool stores. It's much much cheaper.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78036 posts
Posted on 4/26/22 at 8:39 pm to
my pool liner gets horribly stained in the spring from all the damn worms and debris that get into it.

the solution is to take the chlorine down to like 1 and then dump Vitamin C in the pool.

seriously. dump 100% citric acid in the pool, turn on the recycler (not filter) for a few days and its like you have a brand new pool.

best trick i've learned since having a pool.

So my entire chemistry regiment the keep my pool happy all year is liquid chlorine, baking soda and Vitamin C.
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