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outdoor kitchen brick question
Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:54 pm
I am planning a small outdoor kitchen project. My plan is to have an L shaped bar 8' long in each direction. Will i need to build a 2x4 wall to support the outer brick, build an inner 4" CMU wall to support the outer brick, or will a single row of brick be able to self support the loads? I grabbed a few picture of what i am looking to do.
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 8:59 pm to lsuCJ5
Yes, use metal studs with hardi backer board
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:13 pm to lsuCJ5
How would the 2x4s add any structure?
The brick is fine. Picture of mine before paint and countertops is here:
The brick is fine. Picture of mine before paint and countertops is here:
Posted on 6/15/22 at 9:51 pm to lsuCJ5
No need for 2X’S. Flammable. I’ve built countless of these. Step one, call plumber and Electrican to stub out, then order the appliances, doors and grills. Step 2, frame with 4x8x16 & 8x8x16. Get a small job mason whose done a couple. Once framed up with masonry, call countertop company to come measure. See if they have some drops they can sell you for contractor grade pricing. Enjoy!
Edit: make sure you add some venting accordingly per grills specs.
Edit: make sure you add some venting accordingly per grills specs.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:00 pm to lsuCJ5
Eta: I was apparently confused when you said outer brick. Thought you were talking about the walls holding up the roof.
My brother is putting his together slowly and he used cement boards with the intention of adding stone veneers. He already has the structure up and the new put installed. Going over there Sunday to break it in.
Original post:
Wood frame is fine. Lumber prices are dropping so if you start in a couple months it would be cost effective.
Cmu is an option and you will already have a mason on site for brick veneer.
You would need 2 layers of brick for a structural load-bearing wall but true clay masons don't exist anymore...at least from what I can tell.
I mentioned wood first because you'll already have carpenters on site and I'm starting to dig the thin veneer systems. Brick, tile, stone, whatever. They attach a tray system to the wall, hang the veneer, and grout. It's light and simple to install.
My brother is putting his together slowly and he used cement boards with the intention of adding stone veneers. He already has the structure up and the new put installed. Going over there Sunday to break it in.
Original post:
Wood frame is fine. Lumber prices are dropping so if you start in a couple months it would be cost effective.
Cmu is an option and you will already have a mason on site for brick veneer.
You would need 2 layers of brick for a structural load-bearing wall but true clay masons don't exist anymore...at least from what I can tell.
I mentioned wood first because you'll already have carpenters on site and I'm starting to dig the thin veneer systems. Brick, tile, stone, whatever. They attach a tray system to the wall, hang the veneer, and grout. It's light and simple to install.
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:20 pm to lsuCJ5
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lsuCJ5
That's my outdoor kitchen!
This post was edited on 6/15/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 6/16/22 at 6:18 am to Will Cover
quote:i know man, i did a image search and yours came up.
That's my outdoor kitchen!
To be clear i am only building the island and not the entire cover/structure. The masonry will only hold up the countertop and grill. I am not installing a gas grill, just a kamado joe and a fridge. I am in the process of getting my electrical dropped into a column near by.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:05 am to lsuCJ5
No wood needed, all brick. Hire a brick mason and he will do it all for you. Have dimensions or the actual pieces on site so he can build the correct sized openings.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:49 am to Duck Island
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No wood needed, all brick. Hire a brick mason and he will do it all for you. Have dimensions or the actual pieces on site so he can build the correct sized openings.
This. They will use angle iron to bridge the openings. I also have one piece of angle iron across the island to help support the countertop.
Edited to add: The base where my BGE sits is solid to provide adequate support. It’s full of undesirable brick and mortar.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 11:54 am
Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:00 pm to lsuCJ5
We do these all the time. The brick alone will be fine. We screw 2x4's into the back wall to support the cabinet tops only. If we have really large and heavy cabinet tops we support it with 1/2" x 4" flat bar grooved into the brick.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:17 pm to redstick13
thanks redstick and booyow. I was thinking about some sort of steel strap made out of angle or flat bar if we did indeed go with a single row of brick. I have a welding machine and i can fab up something that would work for piece of mind.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:42 pm to lsuCJ5
We just build a back wall out of the brick. Doesn’t have to be gorgeous just level w/ the front. Stone guys will shim it up then just mortar the joint underneath after installing the top.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:49 pm to lsuCJ5
Also watch the height of your BGE. You want it to be at a comfortable height to reach down in there. We’ve had to go back and lower a couple where the cust insisted on the height then figured out it was too high.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 9:33 pm to junkfunky
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Wood frame is fine. Lumber prices are dropping so if you start in a couple months it would be cost effective
Wouldn’t use wood. It’s flammable and have heard of many catching fire because of the heat and venting not being done correctly. Spend a little more so it doesn’t cost a whole hell of a lot later.
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