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Need help interpreting soil test results
Posted on 3/3/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 3/3/21 at 12:49 pm
I did both the front and back yard separate. All St. Augustine grass.
Front (2500 sqft)
pH- 5.53 VERY LOW
Phosphorus- 14.46 LOW
Potassium- 188.3 VERY HIGH
Calcium- 1,225.96 VERY HIGH
Magnesium- 288.30 VERY HIGH
Sodium- 62.23 OPTIMUM
Sulfur- 13.68 MEDIUM
Copper- 1.80 HIGH
Zinc- 8.22 HIGH
Back (4500 sqft)
pH- 5.44 VERY LOW
Phosphorus- 37.53 HIGH
Potassium- 143.44 VERY HIGH
Calcium- 1,471.72 VERY HIGH
Magnesium- 234.64 VERY HIGH
Sodium- 66.86 OPTIMUM
Sulfur- 13.73 MEDIUM
Copper- 2.60 HIGH
Zinc- 14.76 HIGH
From what I gather on these sheets (which a a little confusing), I need to add;
Lime- 115 lb in the front and 200 lb in the back
Nitrogen- 7.5 lb in the front 13.5 lb in the back broken up into 3 separate applications a month apart
Phosphate- 6 lb of Triple Super Phosphate
Beginner at this so any tips are appreciated.
Front (2500 sqft)
pH- 5.53 VERY LOW
Phosphorus- 14.46 LOW
Potassium- 188.3 VERY HIGH
Calcium- 1,225.96 VERY HIGH
Magnesium- 288.30 VERY HIGH
Sodium- 62.23 OPTIMUM
Sulfur- 13.68 MEDIUM
Copper- 1.80 HIGH
Zinc- 8.22 HIGH
Back (4500 sqft)
pH- 5.44 VERY LOW
Phosphorus- 37.53 HIGH
Potassium- 143.44 VERY HIGH
Calcium- 1,471.72 VERY HIGH
Magnesium- 234.64 VERY HIGH
Sodium- 66.86 OPTIMUM
Sulfur- 13.73 MEDIUM
Copper- 2.60 HIGH
Zinc- 14.76 HIGH
From what I gather on these sheets (which a a little confusing), I need to add;
Lime- 115 lb in the front and 200 lb in the back
Nitrogen- 7.5 lb in the front 13.5 lb in the back broken up into 3 separate applications a month apart
Phosphate- 6 lb of Triple Super Phosphate
Beginner at this so any tips are appreciated.
Posted on 3/3/21 at 2:24 pm to Pintail
By and large follow the recommendations provided. Soil pH will be raised prob to about 6.5 over a period of months with the addition of a slow reacting lime, which is near where St Augustine performs best. Use calcidic or dolomitic lime (calcium carbonate and or calcium/magnesium carbonate, slow acting) should be available at the big box stores. In my opinion do not use fast acting hydrated lime (calcium hydroxide) or burnt lime (calcium oxide) - your pH is not so acidic for St Augustine that it needs rapid acting lime. Use something like this LINK but don’t use this LINK
Phosphorus, follow the the AgCenter recommendation - I’m guessing this likely for the front yard only where P is low. A bag and 1/2 of this. LINK
Nitrogen - use a lawn fertilizer (not weed & feed containing herbicide) with a N-P-K of 33-0-x or 24-2-11 - or something similar to that at a rate of 1 pound of N per 1000 sq ft. For the actual amount to apply per 1000 sq ft divide the % N into 100 so, if using a 33-x-x, 3.3 lbs per 1000 sq ft or for a 24-x-x, 4 lbs of lawn fertilizer per 1000 sq ft. Apply the first application when the grass greens and grows enough for you cut the grass twice, prob around April 1 to April 15. Second application in June, third application in August and you are done for the year.
Do another soil test in Nov/Dec to check how much the pH has been raised by the lime addition and tweak it from there.
Note: lawn fertilizers are going to be very low in phosphorus by design, often 0 or maybe 2 %, Potassium levels vary among lawn fertilizers a good bit that’s why I used an “x” as opposed to a real number. The lawn fertilizer I use is a LESCO 24-2-11.
Phosphorus, follow the the AgCenter recommendation - I’m guessing this likely for the front yard only where P is low. A bag and 1/2 of this. LINK
Nitrogen - use a lawn fertilizer (not weed & feed containing herbicide) with a N-P-K of 33-0-x or 24-2-11 - or something similar to that at a rate of 1 pound of N per 1000 sq ft. For the actual amount to apply per 1000 sq ft divide the % N into 100 so, if using a 33-x-x, 3.3 lbs per 1000 sq ft or for a 24-x-x, 4 lbs of lawn fertilizer per 1000 sq ft. Apply the first application when the grass greens and grows enough for you cut the grass twice, prob around April 1 to April 15. Second application in June, third application in August and you are done for the year.
Do another soil test in Nov/Dec to check how much the pH has been raised by the lime addition and tweak it from there.
Note: lawn fertilizers are going to be very low in phosphorus by design, often 0 or maybe 2 %, Potassium levels vary among lawn fertilizers a good bit that’s why I used an “x” as opposed to a real number. The lawn fertilizer I use is a LESCO 24-2-11.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 12:04 am
Posted on 3/3/21 at 5:36 pm to Pintail
Where’d you get it done? By LSU? Was wondering how long it took to get results back
Posted on 3/3/21 at 6:20 pm to Schmelly
LSU and it took a month and a half but the freeze happened right in the middle so probably about a month.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:04 pm to CrawDude
quote:
dolomitic lime
His magnesium is already high, so I wouldn’t bother with this. I assume this is some variety of clay soil? If so make sure your drainage is optimized.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:40 pm to Schmelly
Usually takes about 7-10 business days to get the results back.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:40 pm to CrawDude
I may be missing something or I could be confused, but if his soil sample shows he needs 7.5# of N per 1k sq ft for the front and 13# for the back, why would he only put it at a rate of 1# per thousand in your assessment? Shouldn't this be 2ish # for the front to equal it out over the 3 fertilizations?
FWIW, I could be completely mixed up with this.
FWIW, I could be completely mixed up with this.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:19 pm to Decisions
The dolomitic lime isn't suggested for magnesium it is for ph. His calcium is also high so calcitic lime is going to raise that as well. One way or another he has to get his ph to 6.5-7.0.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:25 pm to RedBeardBaw
Soil samples don't give N results because of how fast it disappears from the lawn. The way I read it LSU didn't say he needed that amount of fert. It looks like that is the numbers that he came up with himself.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 5:33 pm to ronk
quote:
Soil samples don't give N results because of how fast it disappears from the lawn.
They don't give results, but they do provide a typical recommendation based on the crop/grass species.
LSU recommends 1 lb of elemental nitrogen per 1000 sqft for St. Aug. That works out to about 2 lbs of Urea, or 3 lbs of Ammonium Nitrate.
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:41 pm to RedBeardBaw
quote:
may be missing something or I could be confused, but if his soil sample shows he needs 7.5# of N per 1k sq ft for the front and 13# for the back, why would he only put it at a rate of 1# per thousand in your assessment? Shouldn't this be 2ish # for the front to equal it out over the 3 fertilizations?
To clarify, the AgCenter N recommendation for this yard is 7.5 lbs N per 2,500 sq ft FY = 3 lbs N per 1000 sq ft total for the years split equally among 3 applications therefore the amount of nitrogen per application is 1 lb N per 1000 sq ft. Ditto the same process for calculation for the backyard.
The standard recommendation for N fertilization of St Augustine is 1 lb N per 1000 sq ft per application, with usually 3 applications per year.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 8:36 am
Posted on 3/4/21 at 6:49 pm to ronk
quote:
The dolomitic lime isn't suggested for magnesium it is for ph. His calcium is also high so calcitic lime is going to raise that as well. One way or another he has to get his ph to 6.5-7.0.
This - it s the carbonate in calcite and dolomite that neutralizes the soil acidity and raises soil pH. Dolomitic limestone is more soluble than calcitic limestone so it generally works more rapidly in raising soil pH.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 8:37 am
Posted on 3/7/21 at 12:20 pm to ronk
I understand what the primary purpose is. I’m just saying I wouldn’t bother with the dolomitic variety since his magnesium is already acceptable. Just use the calcitic.
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