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Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:49 am to Trout Bandit
quote:I used celcius for spot spray in front yard, and completely sprayed the back yard (with celcius). Back was/is overrun and I'm trying to get it under control. Had a new puppy last year who liked to chew grass and I was afraid to put anything on the lawn so the weeds got a good head start on me. Ceclcius definitely worked well on the buttonweed especially after 2nd treatment about a month apart. Hopefully I see less of it next year with help of pre emergents. Trying to tighten up my game.
Do you spot spray with MSM or spray the entire yard??
Posted on 9/15/23 at 7:55 am to The Mick
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I used celcius for spot spray in front yard, and completely sprayed the back yard (with celcius). Back was/is overrun and I'm trying to get it under control. Had a new puppy last year who liked to chew grass and I was afraid to put anything on the lawn so the weeds got a good head start on me. Ceclcius definitely worked well on the buttonweed especially after 2nd treatment about a month apart. Hopefully I see less of it next year with help of pre emergents. Trying to tighten up my game.
Good to hear Celcius works on VBW as I just sprayed a few patches that I had a few days ago with it. How long before it showed signs of dying off?
Posted on 9/15/23 at 8:39 am to Ziggy
quote:I've always heard that it is, largely because it's about the only thing you can spray when you need it most (July-August).
Is MSM Turf the best herbicide to use on VBW?
I've seen great results spot spraying in our 100+ degree summer, and the St. Aug still looks fantastic.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:03 am to bayoubengals88
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I've always heard that it is, largely because it's about the only thing you can spray when you need it most (July-August).
I've seen great results spot spraying in our 100+ degree summer, and the St. Aug still looks fantastic.
Thanks for the response.

Posted on 9/15/23 at 9:15 am to Ziggy
Spectracide Weed Stop comes in verious application forms. VBW is listed. Mix the concentrated version in a gallon tank sprayer to spot spray. You may need to plan on hitting it a few times as needed.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:10 am to Ziggy
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Good to hear Celcius works on VBW as I just sprayed a few patches that I had a few days ago with it.
What dilution rate do you use?? I bought the 6.4g packet and I believe I'm supposed to mix that with 2 gallons of water. Is that correct??
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:25 am to Trout Bandit
Is this the packet you're referring to? LINK
If so, low rate would be 1 packet per 4 gallons, mid rate would be 1 packet per 2.75 gallons, and high rate would be 1 packet per 2 gallons. I've always done 1 packet per 2 gallons which would be the most potent.
If so, low rate would be 1 packet per 4 gallons, mid rate would be 1 packet per 2.75 gallons, and high rate would be 1 packet per 2 gallons. I've always done 1 packet per 2 gallons which would be the most potent.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:27 am to Ziggy
Yep that's it. Got it at Clegg's for $15.
Thanks for the help!!
Thanks for the help!!
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:49 am to Trout Bandit
quote:
Yep that's it. Got it at Clegg's for $15.
That's a good price. I always have a packet or two on hand at all times - it's very convenient.
quote:
Thanks for the help!!
No problem - glad to be able to contribute a little as everyone has been so helpful with me and all of my questions the past few months!
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:12 am to dolamite
What sticker are yall using?
VBW gets really waxy as it matures
VBW gets really waxy as it matures
Posted on 9/15/23 at 12:48 pm to Ziggy
quote:Within about a week I'd say. Make sure you reapply about 4 weeks later.
Good to hear Celcius works on VBW as I just sprayed a few patches that I had a few days ago with it. How long before it showed signs of dying off?
Posted on 9/15/23 at 1:29 pm to The Mick
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Within about a week I'd say. Make sure you reapply about 4 weeks later.

Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:01 pm to Ziggy
MSM Turf (metsulfuron methyl), Celsius and Fertilome Weed Free Zone (SpeedZone Southern) are all effective herbicides for controlling VBW. You have restrictions on using WFZ at temperatures exceeding 85 F as it will damage desirable lawn grass. MSM Turf and Celsius can be used in the heat of summer.
One will get much better control of VBW when spraying it as it first emerges in late spring, as opposed to when it matures and has the characteristic small white flowers.
As a perennial weed, it invariability requires multiple sprays several weeks apart to keep it in check. You should use a surfactant (spreader sticker) in the herbicide solution to increase the herbicide absorption rate into the waxy foliage.
One will get much better control of VBW when spraying it as it first emerges in late spring, as opposed to when it matures and has the characteristic small white flowers.
As a perennial weed, it invariability requires multiple sprays several weeks apart to keep it in check. You should use a surfactant (spreader sticker) in the herbicide solution to increase the herbicide absorption rate into the waxy foliage.
Posted on 9/16/23 at 3:02 am to dolamite
Just inspect daily, no need to spray whole yard. see it nuke it.
Posted on 9/16/23 at 8:26 am to dolamite
IIRC you have to treat for VBW in the spring.
Posted on 9/16/23 at 8:40 pm to dolamite
1/8 teaspoon per gallon. NO MORE! Any stronger it will burn St. Aug. VBW foliage will turn purple in 2-3 weeks. Be patient.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:13 pm to Ziggy
quote:You need to use surfactant with celcius, at least that's what I've been told.
Ziggy
Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:05 pm to damnstrongfan
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1/8 teaspoon per gallon. NO MORE! Any stronger it will burn St. Aug. VBW foliage will turn purple in 2-3 weeks. Be patient.
1/8 teaspoon = .02oz, yes?
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