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Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:00 am
Posted by deanwelles
EBR Parish Prison
Member since Mar 2008
177 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:00 am
Trying to help my kid's daycare get organized on a possible addition to the current facility.
In La, the day care rules say they need a hand washing station (i.e a sink) in the room they're considering renovating. If no food is to be prepped at this fixture, would it need to pass through a grease trap?
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29919 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 10:33 am to
quote:

If no food is to be prepped at this fixture, would it need to pass through a grease trap?


i am not a master plumber but heres my advice from working with many of them

anything like a school that has kids you better strictly follow the code requirements, they tell you whats needed.

offhand i can tell you soap and grease are very much alike in what happens to it after going down a drain. for that reason, i might put a grease trap whether its required or not, to trap the soap residue that acts much like grease and collects it drain pipes
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
3330 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:44 am to
If the sink is in a kitchen or even in a room where food is prepared, it will need to drain into a grease trap. It can’t connect to the sanitary sewer directly.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20401 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 12:42 pm to
Is that normal code for a school? I have no idea, just an odd question unless someone told you that school sinks need a grease trap?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38659 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

If no food is to be prepped at this fixture, would it need to pass through a grease trap?
if it is in a room where food is prepared, it must go thru the grease trap. if there are currently fixtures plumbed to the grease trap (dishwasher, 3cmpt sink, floor drains, etc) this is an easy install and no cause for alarm
Posted by deanwelles
EBR Parish Prison
Member since Mar 2008
177 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

If the sink is in a kitchen or even in a room where food is prepared, it will need to drain into a grease trap. 


This room wouldn't have any food prepped, as it would be for infants only. This sink would just be for hand washing after diaper changes. I think the only consumables for the infants in the room would be milk or formula from bottles (prepared at home) that the parents take home and wash later.

My understanding is that the current sewer line serving this room doesn't pass through a grease trap.

ETA: Distinction here seems subtle on preparation/consumption, appreciate the replies
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 1:41 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38659 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 1:43 pm to
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I think the only consumables for the infants in the room would be milk or formula from bottles
do not disclose this info to the health dept. milk/dairy is considered a fat (grease) and most definitely will require tie in to the grease trap. this is why the sinks behind a bar have to have a grease trap, even if they do not serve food
Posted by deanwelles
EBR Parish Prison
Member since Mar 2008
177 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

cgrand


Much appreciated. One final question; Let's say the Health Dept figures it out anyway. Would it be possible to use a small in-line grease trap? Or does it need to go through the large one buried out in the yard? I think this would have like 20 kids and be around 500 sq ft if that makes any difference.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38659 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 2:01 pm to
yes that is one option
Posted by deanwelles
EBR Parish Prison
Member since Mar 2008
177 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 2:03 pm to
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cgrand


Thanks again
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
5577 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 11:52 pm to
No
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45799 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:12 am to
quote:

I think the only consumables for the infants in the room would be milk or formula from bottles (prepared at home) that the parents take home and wash later.


The health department wants hand sinks to only be used for hand washing.
Posted by deanwelles
EBR Parish Prison
Member since Mar 2008
177 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:21 pm to
I'm pretty confident all they would use it for is hand washing, but the infants would consume bottles in this room so I'm trying to figure out if that complicates the use of the sink, at least in the eyes of LDH
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