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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 3/2/26 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/2/26 at 6:05 pm to
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I was just thinking about that. There's a spot on the side of my house where the st aug never went dormant. It gets about 6 hours of sun per day.

Good, will get some radiative heat from the house overnight. These things are tough and I suspect we will never have a winter cold enough to kill kill them, just restart them from the roots. Even tropical guava comes back and these are 10 degrees tougher.
This post was edited on 3/2/26 at 6:06 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/3/26 at 9:58 am to
Here's my Mamey that lost all it's leaves. May be done for but whatever that is at the top is new, so hoping maybe it comes back.


Pickering Mango got a little damage from the cold, as well as a basketball breaking off one of the 3 branches.


Alphonso Mango did a bit better with the cold, and the basketball




I'm putting my two Barbados Cherry trees in the ground next weekend. They did excellent with the cold weather outside the greenhouse.
The Loquat I already had in the ground did fine this winter.
My two lime trees are blossoming and doing well. May put one of those in the ground as well.
My pineapple is getting way too big for it's pot and is desperate for a upgrade, but i was waiting for warmer weather before doing that.
Two guava trees are doing well and need pot upgrades as well.
Ice Cream Banana is also doing well now after losing brown leaves in the freeze, and he needs a bigger pot.
My Papaya lost all it's leaves, some to the basketball and then to the freeze. Not sure if it'll recover or not.
Hass Avocado is doing well and has plenty of blooms on it right now. I've had it for almost a year now and I don't think it's grown a single new leaf in that time.


Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/3/26 at 10:50 am to
Nice! The mamey looks like it is trying to flush new leaves. Have you done a scratch test on the bark to see if it's green underneath?

The damage on that Pickering is nothing. It will be totally fine as the weather warms. For mangos that small, you will want a regular fertilizer with regular nitrogen levels like Osmocote. All you're trying to do now is put size on the tree. I say this because if you google "mango fertilizer" you will see a bunch of stuff about 0-0-22 and 0-10-10 because those are exactly what you want for large established in-ground trees and for container trees that are large and fruiting. These guys aren't going to be holding fruit anytime soon, so use the time to get vegetative growth and prune into a strong scaffolding structure.

Sounds like the rest of the collection is doing great and ready for spring.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/3/26 at 11:15 am to
Just put osmocote on everythign this weekend.


haven't tried to see if the bark is still green on the Mamey. Didn't want to injure it anymore that it already is.
I did lose my Kikos Crump Hibiscus to the cold.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/3/26 at 7:16 pm to
Alright I'm here to spam carambola/starfruit again. I've had starfruit in the past before growing it. It was always green and sour (unripe) and the ones that were ripe were pretty bland. I knew that when I started growing them I would get something at least marginally better.

I was not ready for how good the Kari variety has been. They just keep improving, regardless of fruit size. The ones we are eating this week are about the same level of sweetness as a mid-level satsuma. That's much sweeter than I expected. I'm going to let a couple hit complete ripeness over the next few days and measure the brix with the refractometer and update this post.

Even these tiny ones are great.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/3/26 at 8:20 pm to
I’ve got a Bell variety carambola coming tomorrow. Developed here in Florida. A wee 1 gallon tree; but, I will pot it up to 3 gallons upon arrival. Supposedly sweet with a citrusy character. A nice mix of sweet and tart with a somewhat watery texture. The crew at Lara Farms are big fans. If it does well I’m going to put it in the ground at a later date.

I’ve got a spot vacated near my home by a Papaya that got root rot and died last year due to excess moisture from irrigation and being near the drip line of my house. I worry that carambolas growth habit is too much to be close to my house. Plus the excess moisture is a factor.

May end up throwing another banana there. I’ve got a friend with Huamoa, Goldfinger and Pitogo at his place. May see if I can snag a pup or two.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:12 am to
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I’ve got a Bell variety carambola coming tomorrow.

Almost ordered a 5lb box of Bell from Lara to try it, but the Kari are so good I just forgot about them. Have also heard all the good things about Bell.

Unfortunately no man on earth needs more than 1 starfruit tree. My 5ft tall tree produces enough for my family of 4 and we have extra to give away.
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 6:46 am
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:27 am to
White flies are already out
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:44 am to
Yep, start spraying spinosad if you haven't already.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:43 am to
Is that safe for my citrus etc?

I was about to spray Maverick and then saw it wasn't safe for edible plants.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:54 am to
Yes. Spinosad is fine on citrus. It is toxic to bees but it gets absorbed into the leaves the breaks down in about 10 hours on the surface with sunlight. Spray in the evening after bees are gone and you're good.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:11 pm to


Well; the Bell Carambola has arrived. Gotta admit; it’s way smaller than I expected given what they are charging. Perhaps 9 inches tall.

Usually; when buying grafted trees you see clear evidence that the graft has healed and it’s been allowed to flush at least once; often twice. This one is newly grafted and still in fresh buddy tape. The rootstock smaller than a #2 pencil.

I was going to pot it up; but, at this size I don’t see the need. I’ve not had great luck managing potted trees this small. Wish me luck.
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:07 pm to
Is that the 1 or 3 gallon size? If that's supposed to be a 3 that's ridiculous. Luckily they grow at warp speed and you will not have a small tree for very long.

The worst about this is Everglades Farms. Their stuff is always comically small. I try to only buy 3-5 gallons as I agree that small pots are more difficult to manage. Best to keep it in the shade and not let the direct sun cook the tiny pot.
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 4:09 pm
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:52 pm to
This is the 1 gallon size. They didn’t have this particular variety in a 3 gallon. We’ll see what happens. Wouldn’t be the first; nor the last young newly grafted tree that got cooked at my place. LOL…
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:31 pm to
Damnit you're gonna make me order another tree!

ETA: starfruit are listed as highly toxic to dogs. Oh well. I can't keep mine away from any veggies/fruits that I grow.
This post was edited on 3/5/26 at 7:41 am
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9401 posts
Posted on 3/5/26 at 1:59 pm to
Well the good news; if any, is that the reverse zone pushers are perfectly happy with the recent freeze.

The Tropic Prince and Florida Grande peach trees are actively in flower and we’ve got some fruit set already.

Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
34534 posts
Posted on 3/5/26 at 2:34 pm to
I just saw an IG video wherein the guy was talking about Nam Doc Mai mangoes and saying the seeds are polyembryonic and will produce 4 trees, 3 identical to the original and 1 that's different. So you don't have to graft them. Who knew!
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9401 posts
Posted on 3/5/26 at 3:03 pm to
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I just saw an IG video wherein the guy was talking about Nam Doc Mai mangoes and saying the seeds are polyembryonic and will produce 4 trees, 3 identical to the original and 1 that's different. So you don't have to graft them. Who knew!


It’s true of all polyembryonic mango seeds. Just plant it and if they grow one will typically look a bit different than the others. That’s likely the hybrid. Trouble is; suckers are hard to grow from seed. Mortality is high. Even if they do grow; it’s likely to be 5 years before you get fruit. That’s why grafted trees are so popular in the States or air layered trees in Asia. The difference in time to produce fruit gets cut in half or more.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/5/26 at 4:32 pm to
I think I got jipped on my super haas. It looks so sad
This post was edited on 3/5/26 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
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Posted on 3/5/26 at 5:08 pm to
Nice. Maybe the peach crop will somewhat makeup for the mango crop.

Today was a passionfruit day here. Uppotted my overwintered Panama Red from 15g to 45g. It was about 30 feet long last year so I expect this thing to be enormous.

45g. It's a big pot, yo.




Bounty passionfruit that went in the ground 2 weeks ago is already setting fruit.



I picked Panama Red for its reported sweet flavor and Bounty for its alleged cold hardiness. We'll see how they do. I've always found the common nursery ones to be too tart (Frederick, purple possum, etc.)
This post was edited on 3/5/26 at 5:13 pm
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