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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 10/14/25 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 8:21 pm to
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that’s good to know. Is it possible to sprout and fruit in the same growing season?


Mine died due to root rot in a spot that was too wet; but, it went from seed to 7 feet tall and flowering in less than 8 months. Many people start them inside in small pots and move them outside after a few months.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 8:34 pm to
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but if no one grew from seed we wouldn't get all these new "varieties" right?


Correct. That’s how new ones are discovered.

I read an article about Gary Zill’s mango program sometime back. It indicated that for every 100 seedlings he planted less than 50% produced desirable fruit. Many produced nothing at all.

By time growth habit, flavor profile, objectionable fiber, disease resistance and production was factored in only 4-5 made the cut and were propagated for future production.

So effectively; a 95% failure rate of looking to create something new and of merit. Of those that did make the cut; most tracked back to a popular parent tree. Meaning odds are it was an offspring of an already popular species and preserved many of the traits of the parent tree.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:46 pm to
Fruitful Trees just dropped a new video on growing mangos in containers. Lots of good information that will apply to several of us. Main takeaway is that, yes, mango trees can grow and fruit very well in pots over a very long period of time... if you give it proper care. What you want is a big pot that is physically manageable such that you can perform root pruning over time. There are a couple of monster container trees in this video and they are not dwarf trees like Pickering, Dwarf Hawaiian, etc.

LINK
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 9:48 pm
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:08 pm to
I’ve got two Bolt mango trees. One in the ground and the other in a pot.

The Bolt has proven very difficult for people to grow despite overwhelmingly glowing reviews about the quality of the fruit. They end up being chlorotic and failing to thrive. Even the guy who developed it isn’t actively selling them.

The potted one is actually doing pretty well. It’s flushed several times. Usually quite small internodes. Sometimes the new growth dies immediately. Some make it.

The one in the ground is half the size of the potted one now. Both came from the same grower and were roughly the same size when I got them a year ago.

If my experience has taught me anything it’s that some mango trees may actually be better suited to pots. I don’t know how it will play out long term; but, I can see letting this run out to 50 gallons or so just out of academic curiosity.

I think as interest continues for potted and zone-pushing mango growers we’ll see more and more varieties specifically aimed at maximizing production from pots.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 4:04 am to
Very interesting on bolt. I agree that the envelope will be pushed in coming years on container mangos. You are starting to see crazy things like producing Valencia Prides in 20g containers on social media and YouTube. Pickering has obviously done fantastic for me so far but I really should also mention cecilove. My ceciilove is in the ground but it would make a great container tree. Very slow and compact grower with zero disease issues thus far. We'll have to see how well it flowers.
This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 10:09 am
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 6:40 am to
Pickering seems to struggle for me. M4 flourishing
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:07 am to
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Pickering seems to struggle for me. M4 flourishing

Full sun, fast draining soil, and watering at least every other day? If yes to all of that and it's still struggling I have a few tricks that might help.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:35 am to
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Pickering seems to struggle for me. M4 flourishing


A lot of mango trees are struggling in my area. I’m sure you may be dealing with the same issue. While having a hurricane free season is a blessing; the lack of tropical rains has us in a profound drought. We normally get 6-8 inches in September. We got less than 1/3 of an inch in total. No measurable rainfall in October yet either. So get after them with water for sure. My property has two sections; only one gets irrigation. Normally not an issue as we get so much rainfall this time of year. The difference between the two sections is noticeably different this year.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 11:09 am to
horrible drought here too. It’s rained once the past two months. I’ve got a pile of trees I want to plant but I doubt I could even dig a hole right now

if anyone in the area wants a loquat or a Celeste fig I’ve got plenty extras.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9401 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 1:21 pm to
Definitely a bit worrisome. We ordinarily have a pretty extended dry period starting around the new year which lasts all the way until March. That’s good for managing pests and keeping powder mildew and fungal stuff at bay during flowering. Now I’m a bit concerned that next years crop will be impacted if we don’t get some significant rain in the coming months. The trees didn’t put on nearly as much vegetative growth as I’ve seen in years past. I’m afraid my proactive pruning may bite me in arse as a couple of trees haven’t flushed new growth at all.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:25 pm to
we got no rain last 2 weeks of august. we got 0.5" total in september, two rain days. we got 0.5" on october 6. thats it for almost 2 months meanwhile it stayed mostly around 90 degrees. there is a small chance of rain here on saturday then nothing for the rest of the month. i.m not sure whats going on (doesnt appear to be a "heat dome") but it's concerning
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 10/16/25 at 8:49 pm to
Carambola coming in.

Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/18/25 at 6:46 am to
So my Meyer is not going to do anything this year. I think I have come to that realization. LOL. Can/Should I go ahead and cut this thing back. I am in Sarasota so its still getting warm in the afternoons but the nights are starting to get cold (low 60's) for us. Is it time for me to cut this thing back? And any special "winter" things to do. I am going to give it one more year next year and if it does not give me some damn lemons, its going in the dump and I am going to try something else.









And now for a little bragging. I may have not "mastered" the lemon inside my pool cage but this damn Pothos is doing fantastic. I propragated it from 4, 1 inch long pieces I cut from a cutting on my friends plant. Let them dry out a few days, poked them in some soil and babied the shite out of it for a few months. Repotted it last week in this thing and its doing amazing. Very proud of that for a non green thumb person like myself. LOL. It stays on my lanaii where it gets plenty of indirect sun and lots of warmth. The stems now are bigger than pencils.


Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 10/18/25 at 10:50 am to
Put 8 more fig trees in the ground yesterday bringing my total to 18 in-ground with 16 different varieties. Top dressed with compost and mulched. Up potted an arbequina olive and purple possum passion vine using the peat, sand, perlite mix and top dressed with Osmocote/compost then mulched. It would be a perfect time to be productive in the garden if we had some dang rain in the forecast - my sprinkler was on for about 8 hours yesterday. Also seeded 5,000 sq ft native prairie last week. Have another 2,500 sq ft prairie to seed when the rain shows up.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:44 pm to
did you use the LA Cajun prairie seed?
I’m looking to do the same over about 30000sf but I’m not planting shite until it starts to rain again
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 10/18/25 at 1:32 pm to
For the 5,000 sq ft patch I used the UL Ecology Center native seed department. I would highly recommend them. For the smaller patch I used Prairie Moon who is reputable but not local ecotype genetics. I have also ordered from LA native seed co which is local ecotype but you kind of never know what percentages you’ll get because of their harvest methods. UL and PM harvest individual species then mix species to a certain percentage in the mix. Others estimate percentages in the field and then harvest all seeds together at once. Let me know if you need help. Mix with plenty of wet sand to broadcast.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 10/18/25 at 1:48 pm to
I probably will need help so thanks. I’ve done a test patch with the LA native seed and it was full of ragweed
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:55 pm to
That lemon looks pretty healthy and Meyers are typically productive. I'm assuming it hasn't been in that pot too long. Make sure it's getting at least 6-7 hours of sun and give it a good dose of 0-10-10 fertilizer in the spring. More Bloom liquid is a good one. If it doesn't set fruit after that kill that SOB.

I often find that threatening the trees and even wounding them (look up girdling) can kick start them.

Another surefire way to either save a sick tree or get a lazy one to fruit is to buy another. The second the money leaves your bank account the tree's genes get activated and do what they are supposed to.

These trees have to produce to stay safe.

This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 9:01 am
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9401 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 4:01 pm to
Some photos from the grove…

The finger lime is a citrus adjacent species found mostly in Australia and Oceania.

The University of Florida has produced several species meant to be better adapted to Florida’s climate. They have shown excellent resistance to citrus greening (HLB).

This tree is the Sun Lime variety and about two years old. The fruit is about the width of a thumb and about 2-3” long. When fully ripe it will transition from green to brown and eventually red.

Inside you’ll find a red citrus like caviar. It’s intensely tart and bursts when eaten. Some mixologists use them in cocktails. I love to top tacos with the caviar.


Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:22 pm to
I always think of it as a boudin link tree.

There is more and more research about HLB coming out every year and some of the new developments are encouraging. If I remember correctly, the finger limes resist HLB in the same way that true lemons do. They contract the bacteria, but the plant naturally up-regulates protease inhibitors that drastically reduce the symptoms.

Have you tried out any true lemons, like Lisbon or Eureka? Meyer has too much mandarin DNA and gets killed by HLB.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 7:31 pm
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