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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:26 am to Neauxla
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:26 am to Neauxla
Today’s weekend edition of Gardens & Guns has a lengthy article: The Mad Scientist of PawPaws.
Interesting reading.
Mentions FaceBook group:
Pawpaw Fanatics
Happy reading
Interesting reading.
Mentions FaceBook group:
Pawpaw Fanatics
Happy reading
Posted on 9/14/25 at 5:56 pm to Ncook
Had to move my Silas Wood sapodilla from 7g to 20g and cut it back. Thing has been growing like a weed. It was slow to start but once it got going it was off to the races.
Also, over the last few days meteorologists have begun predicting that La Nina will last all winter. That means a warmer and drier winter for the deep south. Great news for us in this thread. I am really hoping we get back to some normal winters soon.
Also, over the last few days meteorologists have begun predicting that La Nina will last all winter. That means a warmer and drier winter for the deep south. Great news for us in this thread. I am really hoping we get back to some normal winters soon.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:40 pm to Tigerlaff
Jaboticaba is flowering and the Kari starfruit are almost ready.
Also got my new flamethrower palm repotted. Like everything else you buy, this one was in a "rich organic soil" full of bark. It literally stank from the decay. Washed every single bit of it off the roots. The new inorganic soil along with some palm fertilizer should clear up the burnt tips and get this thing greened up.

Also got my new flamethrower palm repotted. Like everything else you buy, this one was in a "rich organic soil" full of bark. It literally stank from the decay. Washed every single bit of it off the roots. The new inorganic soil along with some palm fertilizer should clear up the burnt tips and get this thing greened up.

This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 9/16/25 at 9:57 am to Tigerlaff
When you put your thermostat in your greenhouse do you put the temp probe into a glass of water so the temp swings aren't as rapid?
Just remembered that I have two of these from my homebrewing days.

Just remembered that I have two of these from my homebrewing days.

Posted on 9/16/25 at 10:14 am to Tigerlaff
How long before lemons start turning yellow? My trees have had 2 decent sized lemons for at least 2 months now. The rest I picked off to not stress the young trees.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 2:24 pm to Loup
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When you put your thermostat in your greenhouse do you put the temp probe into a glass of water so the temp swings aren't as rapid?
No. Seems like a good way to have your plants freeze or cook, depending on the weather.
Posted on 9/16/25 at 2:25 pm to mchias1
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How long before lemons start turning yellow? My trees have had 2 decent sized lemons for at least 2 months now. The rest I picked off to not stress the young trees.
Citrus takes 8-9 months to ripen in ideal conditions. My lemons don't ripen until late December or mid January.
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:29 am to Tigerlaff
Thanks for the input on temps.
Funny how different my DH and Pickering are flushing growth.
Pickering is much more prolific, large leaves and pushes about every 4-6 weeks!
If I wanted to prune my guava back how should I do that for size control? It has a nice main leader about 5ft tall from the crown, and several lateral branches established.
Head the laterals back hard? Cut the main leader back?
Funny how different my DH and Pickering are flushing growth.
Pickering is much more prolific, large leaves and pushes about every 4-6 weeks!
If I wanted to prune my guava back how should I do that for size control? It has a nice main leader about 5ft tall from the crown, and several lateral branches established.
Head the laterals back hard? Cut the main leader back?
Posted on 9/17/25 at 1:33 pm to DickTater
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Thanks for the input on temps.
Funny how different my DH and Pickering are flushing growth.
Pickering is much more prolific, large leaves and pushes about every 4-6 weeks!
Very welcome my man. Yeah Pickering is awesome. Just a beautiful strong healthy tree with zero fuss. The bugs don't even touch it in my yard. And I will defend the fruit quality to the death. Pickering is the second best mango I've ever had and I put it above sweet tart, orange sherbet, etc. because I love the coconut flavor and the fruit tree ripens evenly and easily.
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If I wanted to prune my guava back how should I do that for size control? It has a nice main leader about 5ft tall from the crown, and several lateral branches established.
Head the laterals back hard? Cut the main leader back?
I would do everything you can to preserve the main leader. I only cut the main leader if it gets too tall to fit in my greenhouse. And yes, you want to cut back the laterals hard. Guavas can take a hard pruning so cut it to where you want it with the understanding that new branches will shoot out from the site of the cut. You want main scaffolding branches in good locations with good angles to hold the heavy fruit. Pruning also induces flowering so that's a bonus.
This post was edited on 9/17/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:11 am to Tigerlaff
If you could do one peach and one pear in 9b what would you choose? I could do 2 each if absolutely necessary, I already fit in 4 citrus and 2 apple with 6 more low chill apples on the way this winter.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:00 pm to armsdealer
No idea on pears. Zero experience. For peaches you need to be looking at things like Florida king and tropic snow.
And if you are 9b in Louisiana or the gulf south, you need to get ready for a pretty rigorous spray program.
If you are 9b California or Arizona then have fun and go crazy with your dry climate. Peaches are native to arid northwest China. Our humidity will wreck them without chemical help. Sure, you'll always find the one guy who gets a huge harvest with no spraying or pruning, but that's not the rule at all.
And if you are 9b in Louisiana or the gulf south, you need to get ready for a pretty rigorous spray program.
If you are 9b California or Arizona then have fun and go crazy with your dry climate. Peaches are native to arid northwest China. Our humidity will wreck them without chemical help. Sure, you'll always find the one guy who gets a huge harvest with no spraying or pruning, but that's not the rule at all.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:25 pm to armsdealer
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could do one peach
I’m growing Florida Grande and Tropic Prince in 10A. Second year, no fruit from either yet. Planted as 15g trees. If being honest; they haven’t grown much and don’t seem to be thriving. If I don’t see a big improvement next year they’ll probably get yanked. You may fare better in 9A which corresponds to the University of Florida’s Zone where they were developed. You’ll get more chill hours than I do.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:22 pm to wiltznucs
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You may fare better in 9A which corresponds to the University of Florida’s Zone where they were developed. You’ll get more chill hours than I do.
Every time I start bitching about my 6-10 annual freezes I think about the very few crazy reverse zone pushers who are going in the opposite direction. People in Broward trying to grow apples and cherries, etc. Then I don't feel so bad. Way easier for me to grow a mango in ground than for them to grow a Ranier cherry.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:37 pm to Tigerlaff
For real. Growing in the subtropics is tough and reverse pushing is hard.
I’m trying both apples and peaches. The Anna and Golden Dorsett apples produced in abundance. So much that they routinely broke limbs even after thinning; but, we left for Spring break and returned two weeks later to a pretty bad case of bitter rot. I’ll do better next year with spraying Captan. What apples I did get were small; but, crisp and flavorful. Perfect for a lite snack.
The peaches have been much more problematic. Doesn’t grow quickly and insect pressure is really hard on them. I will say; what inspired me to try was a Florida Grande peach I was given. It was smallish by comparison to other commercial varieties but intensely sweet with a melting texture and delicious. One of the best I’ve ever had. Plus there’s something to be said for having fresh peaches in May/June while everyone else waits until Fall.
So definitely worth a shot; but, perhaps with tempered expectations.
I’m trying both apples and peaches. The Anna and Golden Dorsett apples produced in abundance. So much that they routinely broke limbs even after thinning; but, we left for Spring break and returned two weeks later to a pretty bad case of bitter rot. I’ll do better next year with spraying Captan. What apples I did get were small; but, crisp and flavorful. Perfect for a lite snack.
The peaches have been much more problematic. Doesn’t grow quickly and insect pressure is really hard on them. I will say; what inspired me to try was a Florida Grande peach I was given. It was smallish by comparison to other commercial varieties but intensely sweet with a melting texture and delicious. One of the best I’ve ever had. Plus there’s something to be said for having fresh peaches in May/June while everyone else waits until Fall.
So definitely worth a shot; but, perhaps with tempered expectations.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:24 pm to wiltznucs
Right on brotha. This whole thread is about saying "F it let's see what happens."
The more I think about it, the more I start to think that a warm 9b is the best zone. The exotic pest pressure is lower and the freezes are generally light and chill hours are reasonable. 9a is 100+ in the summer and the rare single digits in the winter.
The more I think about it, the more I start to think that a warm 9b is the best zone. The exotic pest pressure is lower and the freezes are generally light and chill hours are reasonable. 9a is 100+ in the summer and the rare single digits in the winter.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:53 pm to Tigerlaff
Well, they are going with apples that need pruning and spraying!
Just wanted to add some variety.
My citrus, bananas, blueberries and beautyberries are much more suited to Gulf coast 9b and in the same area.
Just wanted to add some variety.
My citrus, bananas, blueberries and beautyberries are much more suited to Gulf coast 9b and in the same area.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:31 pm to Tigerlaff
I live on the north shore of Lake Pontchartrain and it feels like our weather is tempered somewhat by the water. Our back yard is a canal, but the front of the neighborhood faces the lake, we are right there.
We are trying a few apples, but we mostly have fruit well suited for our zone, previously mentioned blueberries, oranges, some of the more cold hardy dwarf bananas that I hope to get fruit from next year.
If they don't work out I can always yank em and put something else there. We have rabbiteyes that should give us fruit from early season through late season, oranges should start with Valencia in the spring the Washington Navels and Hamlin later in the year. Melons in the summer, we should be good with fruit. I do my strawberries hydroponically inside. Running everbearing varieties when I pull the runners off they will give a new crop and then the runners will give a new crop to. I have gotten decent at getting a raft of plants to give fruit all around the same time.
The apples we are going with first are Anna and Ein Shemer, they were available locally. I ordered bare root Kindercrisp, Golden Delecious, Rubinette and Sunshine that should come during the dormant season. I do want to pick up a golden Dorsett also, and I am not so sure about the Golden Delicious, but if it doesn't work out I can just graft another apple to the tree later.
We are trying a few apples, but we mostly have fruit well suited for our zone, previously mentioned blueberries, oranges, some of the more cold hardy dwarf bananas that I hope to get fruit from next year.
If they don't work out I can always yank em and put something else there. We have rabbiteyes that should give us fruit from early season through late season, oranges should start with Valencia in the spring the Washington Navels and Hamlin later in the year. Melons in the summer, we should be good with fruit. I do my strawberries hydroponically inside. Running everbearing varieties when I pull the runners off they will give a new crop and then the runners will give a new crop to. I have gotten decent at getting a raft of plants to give fruit all around the same time.
The apples we are going with first are Anna and Ein Shemer, they were available locally. I ordered bare root Kindercrisp, Golden Delecious, Rubinette and Sunshine that should come during the dormant season. I do want to pick up a golden Dorsett also, and I am not so sure about the Golden Delicious, but if it doesn't work out I can just graft another apple to the tree later.
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:46 pm to armsdealer
Awesome. I'm also very close to the lake. It definitely makes a difference.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 8:34 am to armsdealer
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If you could do one peach and one pear in 9b what would you choose?
I'm in zone 9a and have a Flordaking and a Rio Grande. The Rio Grande is a lot healthier than the Flordaking but it buds mid January and I've lost a lot of the buds to late freezes. I haven't had that much trouble with either of them as far as pests go. I spray with bonide fruit tree spray as recommended on the label. I planted them both in 2021 and the Rio is about 15 ft tall now.
I did a poor job of thinning them this year and they didn't get as big as store peaches but they were still delicious. I don't have any good pics of them when loaded down but here is a screen shot of a vid I took of the Rio.
I should have thinned out about twice as many as I did.

Posted on 9/19/25 at 12:54 pm to Loup
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bonide fruit tree spray
Same thing I use on my nectaplum. Great product that controls most insects and fungi. Your peaches look great.
Harvested my first starfruit today. It fell off the tree a little small and not totally ripe. This is a premier variety called Kari and it was already very sweet despite needing another week or so. I can't wait to see what the fully ripe ones will be like. Very refreshing tropical flavor similar to citrus but not quite the same thing.

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