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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 7/12/26 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/12/26 at 5:35 pm to
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Should I cut these out? The main pup is about 12” tall now

No, just let it get stronger for now. You can worry about pup management next year. Right now it's all about any growth you can get. Need a strong corm underground before winter.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/12/26 at 5:38 pm to
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I’m going to keep this one potted and just enjoy the foliage. Frogs like to get up under the leaves and chill out

Good plan. That's how I use mine, foliage only. They make big wide leaves in the shade. Not worth a damn in the cold, so potted is fine. And yeah I am overrun with tree frogs. They're everywhere when you grow bananas.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/12/26 at 5:39 pm to
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Tried my hand at grafting. Put Some cecilove grafts and lil gem grafts onto some Pickerings and an m-4 that was struggling. Guess we will see what happens.


Nice! Hope to see some takes in the coming weeks.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/12/26 at 5:41 pm to
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I need a good knife. I was using box a box cutter with new blades

A box cutter with a fresh razor blade is better than any grafting knife out there.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/12/26 at 5:42 pm to
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Believe it or not; Pine Island Nursery isn’t actually in Pine Island. It’s all the way over in Miami. Other side of the State. I had no idea either. Went to look it up and found out while we’re there.

Wow. Mind blown. Make me kind of mad.
This post was edited on 7/12/26 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/12/26 at 6:01 pm to
Of the 12 mangos I let my Pickering hold, the first 6 off the tree have had jelly seed/soft nose/internal breakdown. Got 6 more left on the tree. I have no idea why it's happening. This is almost always a calcium problem and I give my trees gypsum and azomite. At this point I just don't know. I am about to start picking them green to see if that helps, which is crazy. Pickering is the last mango you want to pick green.







My Cecilove that I topped 2 weeks ago is about to bud out and give me some new branches. Unfortunately it looks like all 3 buds are on the same side of the tree. I'm just going to keep cutting until this dumb tree gets it right. Pissed off at the Mangifera genus right now.



Geffner atemoyas coming along nicely. Got about 11 still holding on the tree.



Musa Florida variegated banana gifted to me last week is pushing new leaves after being cut from the mother plant.



Plumeria about to bloom.



3.8cuft of peat delivered today. I've given up on Gary's soil being back in stock this summer and am just making my own. I took the chart that AyyyBaw made earlier in the thread and updated with more useful units for shopping/mixing.





Oh and Wiltz, I had a PPK today that was absolutel fire. Tropical Acres. 10/10.
This post was edited on 7/12/26 at 7:38 pm
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 6:11 am to
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Doesn't look great. If you want emergency triage instructions let me know.


Do you think it's worth the effort? The pic was a few days old by the time I posted, it looks pretty much dead now. I might hold off and get a bigger one next spring.


The dragonfruit buds look so freakin' cool. Apparently they only take 10-15 days to bloom from when they show up. They've tripled in size over the past few days. I'm not sure they'll get pollinated but if they bloom I'll call it a win. I'll be ready to manually pollinate them at night like some sort of pervert next year.

Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 7:42 am to
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Do you think it's worth the effort? The pic was a few days old by the time I posted, it looks pretty much dead now. I might hold off and get a bigger one next spring.


Do a scratch test above the graft. If it's still green you have a 50/50 shot of recovery or better.

Yeah that dragonfruit looks badass. Great work.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 7:43 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 7:48 am to
I got so pissed at my jelly seed Pickering harvests that I went ahead and did my annual prune this morning. You should never prune a mango until after harvest but I have no faith that any of these fruit are going to develop properly anyway and the tree was already unbalanced one one side and flushing new growth. Figure I'll just rebalance it and get a head start on building next season's structure. Probably removed about 40% of the canopy.







I'll likely take off a little more after final harvest.

Disclaimer: do not do this with fruit on the tree. This is not proper pruning practice.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 7:50 am
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 4:54 pm to
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Do a scratch test above the graft. If it's still green you have a 50/50 shot of recovery or better.




Looks like there's some sign of life





This is anthracnose, right? I put some copper fungicide on it Friday.

Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 5:48 pm to
I would cut off everything dead. Pretty clear demarcation of where the living tissue ends. May make it.

Yeah looks like anthracnose or some other fungal spot. Not a big deal.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:24 pm to
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Got 6 more left on the tree. I have no idea why it's happening


It’s been a wacky year; write it off as that. I had 6 Sweet Tart mangos fall off in my hand with minimal handling last week. 8 days later and none of them are ripe and the skins haven’t changed color. Still green with a bit of yellow on top. It is what it is. An unusual year.

My avocados have browning leaves all of a sudden in the last 72 hours. We finally get rain and they decide to look like shite? LOL…
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:31 pm to
My 2 lone m4 mangos split down the sides
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 6:25 am to
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My 2 lone m4 mangos split down the sides

We talking actual M4 or the fake ones that looked like NDM?

Anyway that's usually a watering issue. Too much or too little followed by too much. In any event if that's the mislabeled tree I wouldn't waste any more time with it unless you want to just for fun. There is no telling what variety that is and you may not even like it.
This post was edited on 7/14/26 at 6:26 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 6:27 am to
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It’s been a wacky year; write it off as that.

Pretty much my conclusion too. I don't think a single mango grower in the lower 48 has had a "normal" year. I'm gonna pick a couple of them mature green and see if they ripen correctly.

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My avocados have browning leaves all of a sudden in the last 72 hours. We finally get rain and they decide to look like shite? LOL…

As if they need an excuse . They can wake up and decide that they don't like Tuesdays and make the decision to die.
This post was edited on 7/14/26 at 6:29 am
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 6:38 am to
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I would cut off everything dead. Pretty clear demarcation of where the living tissue ends. May make it.


It didn't feel like the bark was bonded to the core when I was cutting it. I had to cut it down a lot further than I thought I would before it looked like living wood. I have about 2" left above the graft. Thanks for the tip, I hope it makes it. If not, I'll buy a bigger one next year.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 7:16 am to
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It didn't feel like the bark was bonded to the core when I was cutting it. I had to cut it down a lot further than I thought I would before it looked like living wood. I have about 2" left above the graft. Thanks for the tip, I hope it makes it. If not, I'll buy a bigger one next year.

Smaller trees are definitely more finicky. They get much more resilient with age. Don't give up!

Also remember that at the first sign of problems you should reduce as many stressors as possible. That means move it into full shade, stop watering, and don't hit it with fertilizer immediately.
This post was edited on 7/14/26 at 7:20 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 5:41 pm to
Mango reviews:

Dot: I now understand the hype. Wow. Syrupy sweetness and the most surprising part to me was strong red berry flavor. Think strawberry/mango syrup. Have never had red berry flavor in a mango before so I consider this pretty unique.



Bennet Alphonso: honestly I can't detect a difference between this and regular Alphonso, which is to say it's a very good Indian flavor mango with resin, some terpenes, and baking spices. Strong bold flavors and good sweetness. It's a pretty rare mango so I'm glad I got to try it.





Bonus Texas BA-1 fig: first of the season (tree planted 9/1/24) and MUCH better this year. Figs often have a green melony flavor in the first couple of years. Tree is finally getting its feet under it. Strong sweet berry flavor and indistinguishable from Smith.



This post was edited on 7/14/26 at 5:51 pm
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 8:44 pm to
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Dot: I now understand the hype.


I need to revisit it. Haven’t seen one this year.

Sort of funny. What I’ve learned this year is that what I prefer isn’t consistent with my family.

I like mangoes with some subacid components. This year I’ve had a few that I didn’t think much of in years past that I’ve thoroughly enjoyed. Florigon is a great example. I’ve had some that have underwhelmed like Coconut Cream. I typically don’t prefer Indian/West Indies mangoes; but, have had a few year that impressed me. I had a Giselle today that was very tasty.

I’m picking up some more Ceci and Peach Cobbler tomorrow. Mostly to reaffirm a decision. If that Peach Cobbler hits like the last one I had I’m yanking citrus trees and installing one of them.
This post was edited on 7/14/26 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
34720 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 10:01 am to
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If that Peach Cobbler hits like the last one I had I’m yanking citrus trees and installing one of them.
citrus mangos?
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